Message from @0x90909090

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2018-05-28 22:39:48 UTC  

oh yea there u go

2018-05-28 22:41:37 UTC  

"U.S. law makes a clear distinction between aliens and immigrants by defining immigrants as a subset of aliens.[9] Although U.S. law provides no overarching explicit definition of the term "illegal alien," the term is used in many statutes[11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19] and elsewhere (e.g., court cases, executive orders). U.S. law also uses the term "unauthorized alien".[20][21][22] U.S. immigration laws do use the phrase illegal immigrant, though the phrase has become a common and highly politicized term in the United States.[23]"

2018-05-28 22:41:39 UTC  

i tweeted that earlier

2018-05-28 22:41:46 UTC  

oh yeah that's where I saw that

2018-05-28 22:42:06 UTC  

so "illegal aliean" and "unauthorized alien" is US law apprently

2018-05-28 22:42:25 UTC  

but never illegal immigrant

2018-05-28 22:42:35 UTC  

seems to me that whatever's in the law should be the term used

2018-05-28 22:42:44 UTC  

anything else is just political correctness...

2018-05-28 22:45:19 UTC  

immigrant without legal status?

2018-05-28 22:45:25 UTC  

Unauthorized alien seems fair.

2018-05-28 22:45:54 UTC  

Ultimately though this is a left-wing tactic. Redefine the language to narrow acceptable thought.

2018-05-28 22:46:54 UTC  

Syme explains it very clearly in 1984. Lenin and friends did this sort of thng all the time.

2018-05-28 22:47:49 UTC  

All these euphemisms that have been coined for "political correctness" aren't about protecting someone's feelings. It's about controlling what is and is not acceptable in discourse, and therefore winning political battles by default.

2018-05-28 22:50:12 UTC  

Some folk believe the term was coined by the early national socialist movements in pre-Nazi Europe. Other believe it was coined by Lenin. But everyone agrees that the purpose of politically correct speech is to constrain thought.

2018-05-28 22:50:53 UTC  

I should say the 'original purpose'

2018-05-28 22:51:25 UTC  

Many people now would believe that current politically correct speech is good, while the original application of the concept was bad.

2018-05-28 22:52:10 UTC  

My advice would be to use the most literal wording possible.

2018-05-28 22:52:34 UTC  

A foreign national without legal authorization to be present in the United States.

2018-05-28 22:52:36 UTC  

I would suggest that everyone has a legal status, its just that some people's legal status is that they are breaking the law

2018-05-28 23:02:55 UTC  

House guest who has overstayed their welcome

2018-05-28 23:05:53 UTC  

The new hotness is "Mexican Asylum Seeker"

2018-05-28 23:06:04 UTC  

Also, fix your own damn country

2018-05-28 23:06:08 UTC  

wherever that is

2018-05-28 23:09:28 UTC  

Extra-terrestrial, as in excess terrestrial begins

2018-05-28 23:10:33 UTC  

As insensitive as that sounds, I actually wish Mexico, Central American Countries, South American countries which produce the most unathorized aliens, would turn their countries into countries which would be as such that people didn't feel the need to risk their lives for a "chance" at a better life

2018-05-28 23:11:30 UTC  

Well, we count stop stealing all their talent

2018-05-28 23:11:38 UTC  

Just close immigration.

2018-05-28 23:11:49 UTC  

im not for that, either though

2018-05-28 23:11:56 UTC  

it's their choice to immigrate

2018-05-28 23:12:01 UTC  

but yeah, that has something to do with it

2018-05-28 23:12:09 UTC  

probagbly a pareto distribution thing 😃

2018-05-28 23:12:12 UTC  

Well, smart people leave because they will get killed. We take them because we want them.

2018-05-28 23:12:17 UTC  

It's not much of a choice

2018-05-28 23:12:50 UTC  

probably because the governments are corrupt and/or the country is ruled by barbarians basically.

2018-05-28 23:13:17 UTC  

Francis Fukuyama makes an argument that the reason why South American countries are generally unsuccessful has to do with the differences in the colonizing cultures.

2018-05-28 23:13:40 UTC  

Spain didn't really embrace enlightenment values.

2018-05-28 23:14:03 UTC  

Egalitarianism, rule-of-law, universalism, etc.

2018-05-28 23:14:03 UTC  

spanish/portugese vs french/english/dutch?

2018-05-28 23:14:19 UTC  

That's his argument, yeah.