Doesn't seem like Germany has any intention of being a large contributor to their nascent EU army.

seems like an excuse like saying that GB wants colonialism again.

like the reasoning for these decisions was based on past policy

Well from what inunderstood it was deep rooted feeling

They didnt like the fact Germany has more influence in eu then gb even tho they lost ww2

I'm convinced that most people's voting choices are based on the idea that they want to be left alone.

^^

Well that folowed

I don't think that would be the decision of the common man that they want to control other nations.

That's not in their range of interests

Colonialism was never a pauper's game.

@zutt I've been anti EU for well over a decade and I've had many convocations about it and I've never heard that one.

The other question is why do half the people want more and more centralized control and integration?

What do they gain from giving Brussels more power?

Because they think the EU is more likely to leave them the fuck alone.

The people don't.

The other half do

That's the best way to sum it up.

Alright let me break it down differently

I'd assume a sizable portion of the #voteleave crowd blame the EU for much of their problems

yep

The two biggest reasons

another portion just simply think that the EU solidifies them and prevents them from changing the problems with GB

And of the people who voted stay

I'd presume that many of them think that many of the problems are fixed by releasing GB sovereignty to a higher authority

Were 1 economical (ppl thinking their wage will raise with less immigration )
And 2 feelings of not beeing in control of their own country

that the resistance to globalization is creating their problems

I've also heard lots and lots of people citing the no passports thing, like getting a passport is a huge obstacle.

There's that, too.

The EU creates boundaries

Very silly reason for such a massive decision.

but it also creates a little bit of efficiency in other regards.

Eu creates boundaries outside and breaks them inside

I mean, kind of?

Its damn convenient to have no borders inside eu

It doesn't really uphold those boundaries when it comes to NGO ships and migrant trails

but sassy right wing transgender canadians get btfo'd.

That migrant story is much more complicated then ppl make it

@zutt feeling not incontrol is not the same as wanting more control of the EU. When we were told 30,000 Poles were going to come to the UK we weren't happy, when 300,000 turned up in the first year we were really pissed. We have fundamental disagreements in how the EU works and didn't want to be part of it. and that goes for half of the ppl that voted remain.

Poppy i understand why you would say that

Problem is backtracking this will end in tears