Message from @0x90909090

Discord ID: 452831613282287618


2018-06-03 12:32:37 UTC  

Left wing politician have negative caption pictures, are they up? I haven seen any.

2018-06-03 12:33:26 UTC  

like if you're forming a company in san francisco regardless of what that company does or sells it's going to have to have a liberal bias by default simply because the people that comprise the company are so much more likely to be liberals.

2018-06-03 12:34:03 UTC  

Sure.

2018-06-03 12:34:04 UTC  

That’s exactly right

2018-06-03 12:34:05 UTC  

i haven't seen any either, but i don't think that these knowledge panels are created by humans

2018-06-03 12:34:31 UTC  

they might be occasionally glanced at by humans to make sure they're more or less sane, but not created

2018-06-03 12:36:01 UTC  

it also appears as if her wikipedia entry was vandalized recently https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trudy_Wade&action=history

2018-06-03 12:36:04 UTC  

If that were true it seems like we would see more events like this with all kinds of captions. Funny that this is the one that slips though the cracks.

2018-06-03 12:36:57 UTC  

Yeah, people are messing with this on the Wikipedia end.

2018-06-03 12:38:59 UTC  

the wikipedia edit seems to have been after the google knowledge panel caption was noticed

2018-06-03 12:39:33 UTC  

maybe the bigot image was googlebombed to the top

2018-06-03 12:40:53 UTC  

should be an easy fix for google's algorithm though. google can easily detect text in an image and reject it.

2018-06-03 12:44:39 UTC  

speaking to the larger issue of bias in tech firms, one trend that might help is the skyrocketing cost of living in california. given how mature communications technology is today there's no good reason to keep all your developers physically in the same city, and there are tons of economic incentives to moving to less population dense areas.

2018-06-03 12:45:35 UTC  

if you have to have an office, why not have it in utah? or rural texas? and why not let devs from all over the country work remotely?

2018-06-03 12:46:05 UTC  

it'll save money, and break up a lot of the group-think.

2018-06-03 12:47:52 UTC  

of course the trend in tech firms isn't telecommuting but building company towns. basically slave plantations for H1Bs where they work a few hundred meters from where they eat and sleep.

2018-06-03 12:49:59 UTC  

so i'm not optimistic that telecommuting will change the big firms (the left put a lot of effort into capturing them and aren't going to give that up easily). but smaller firms are not going to build traditional offices in california simply because they can't afford it anymore.

2018-06-03 13:43:16 UTC  

lol I watched that Rip'n Chicken review. I have to watch it again now to try to determine why it could possibly have been flagged.

2018-06-03 13:43:28 UTC  

He's so completely harmless.

2018-06-03 13:43:36 UTC  

Like Mr. Rogers tier harmless.

2018-06-03 13:51:09 UTC  

I don't agree that there is no reason at all to keep all your staff in the same city, I work for a large corp and we have 3 large offices around the same city and even that 1 hour travel time between the offices can make it difficult to have productive meetings, and when your team is larger than about 10 people everyone jumping onto a video conf can still be less than productive, just watch any online debate of more than 5-6 people and it can turn into a shitfight

2018-06-03 13:55:01 UTC  

in such large voice conferences, have software that has one person in control of the meeting who can enable or disable the microphones of others. there's no need to interrupt or interject. people at the meeting should be listening to what each other are saying, not looking for an opportunity to take control of the conversation.

2018-06-03 13:55:24 UTC  

but most communication doesn't need to use such a format.

2018-06-03 13:55:54 UTC  

if it's a 2-4 way conversation there's no need for such formality, and there might not be any need for voice at all.

2018-06-03 13:57:00 UTC  

i just think it's silly that companies that are ostensibly dedicated to new communication mediums are addicted to face-to-face conversations and refuse to use new technologies.

2018-06-03 13:57:21 UTC  

what you're talking about is for presentations, if there's people in the meeting with no input to provide they're wasting their time being there

2018-06-03 13:59:06 UTC  

so if you go into it saying everyone's mic is disabled you're basically saying their input isn't needed... if you go to a school room raise your hand to talk then meetings are very slow and take longer than they need

2018-06-03 13:59:53 UTC  

not saying their input isn't needed, but that they can and should wait a few minutes to give it instead of interrupting someone else

2018-06-03 14:01:07 UTC  

might just be my personal preference, but i hate listening to debates where people keep interrupting each other

2018-06-03 14:01:26 UTC  

impossible for someone to get a complete thought out before someone else forcibly interjects.

2018-06-03 14:03:25 UTC  

but already you're describing something that wouldn't happen in a normal conversation.... some people need to be interrupted, they're overly verbose or go off on tangents, i see it all the time no one in the room cares what the person is saying because its irrelevant to the topic

2018-06-03 14:06:21 UTC  

I've been good friends of about 10 years with the guy I now work for he's always spending 15 minutes covering something that should take 5, everyone knows it, he knows it so people interrupt and say yeah we all get it, next topic

2018-06-03 14:07:01 UTC  

but when I dial into the meeting, that's hard if not impossible to do because you can't read the room and see if people do in fact get it

2018-06-03 14:07:32 UTC  

yeah, that's why there's one person in charge of the meeting who controls the mics

2018-06-03 14:07:57 UTC  

yeah, its the manager of the team who has the problem, so not a good solution

2018-06-03 14:08:42 UTC  

well, i'd say a bigger problem is forcing developers to live in trailers because they can't afford rent where the meetings are held

2018-06-03 14:09:47 UTC  

yeah that doesn't happen where I live, the opposite is true we don't have enough desks for everyone to work from the office, housing isn't a premium but office space

2018-06-03 14:10:50 UTC  

i'm not talking about where you live then. i'm talking about where all the big tech firms are located where the cost of living is ridiculous.

2018-06-03 14:14:40 UTC  

my original point was that big tech firms have an inordinate amount of control over media, and that they are biased ideologically because their employees are all from one or two extremely liberal cities. the argument i was trying to make was that the cost of living in these cities might force the companies to disperse geographically, thereby alleviating some of the ideological bias.

2018-06-03 14:15:28 UTC  

teleconferencing technology is just something that enables that. i'm not advocating that everyone everywhere should only teleconference.

2018-06-03 14:19:54 UTC  

as an example, reddit. reddit has 230 employees, and their office is in san francisco. now there's a certain number of those employees that have to be there physically because there is hardware they have to work on. but there's a lot of those employees that really have no need to cart their meat into a physical office. the labor they do can be just as easily done from anywhere else, and it would be a cost savings for everyone involved if they worked remotely.