Message from @Blackhawk342
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why was marriage even made a government thing in the first place?
what do they get out of it/
They encourage people to have children would be my guess
The path of reasoning you're on with this seems like it's anarchal in nature.
then they have a lot of freeloaders if its for children
Encourage, not mandate
you could encourage people to have children by actually giving these bonuses for having children. not just living together.
that would have prevented the whole same sex marriage problem entirely
at least in terms of legal standing
@RyeNorth anarchal for wanting the government to stop a program that cause problems and solves nothing?
They do have provisions for that in welfare and in tax breaks
Marriage was supposed to promote stable two parent homes,yes
That's why joint filing and tax breaks for dependents are things
Supposed to, yet it bound two people for life without requiring a kid. Rather than just give them benefits while they have kids who are under whatever is considered the legal age.
And then they have had to patch it again and again and again because it sucked at it's job
still no farmlands? I thought it was out yesterday?
But the point is, if you DO think two people should be able to do as they please in that regard, that should not abolish benefits for the others.
Isnt that what the government should do? fix/change a system when it goes wrong?
yes, they should. And this system never really worked to start with, so they should redesign it from the ground up and start working towards that better system because it covers a bunch of crap that could be split up into different realms of responsibility.
Seems like its working if people are getting married and having kids
Are we still talking about marriage or have we moved on?
that is a horrible metric for it working.
people have kids regardless of marriage, and people get married regardless of kids
meanwhile now need divorce laws, because we made it a legal status.
we need welfare, for people who have kids without marriage
then it covers things like joint filing, which has weird rules that could either save you on taxes or cost you on taxes
the parts where its related to taxes are handled by the IRS
is the IRS not the government?
i was not aware
Yea it is the government, i never said it wasnt
The section for welfare is handled by the HHS which is the portion of the government that distributes welfare. Single parents do get additional money as far as im aware.
Seems like a backwards incentive to me
It looks like fiddling with it makes it worse.
what is a backwards incentive?
Divorce laws werent instiuted for a long time because marriage was supposed to be until death. It wasnt until the 1920-40s when people started giving women the ability to divorce
@Blackhawk342 the fact they are laws is because marriage is a legal status
And as such
if it wasn't a legal status, there would be no need for a law removing that legal status
It's been something increasingly taken more and more lightly.
Did I say that it wasnt a legal status?