Message from @Blackhawk342

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2018-06-05 20:57:06 UTC  

if you take guns from the world you better take every weapon more powerful. even then we will be violent with every weapon less powerful until we are reduced to nuggets without arms or legs

2018-06-05 20:57:36 UTC  

were animals, weve been violent for 500 million years

2018-06-05 20:57:41 UTC  

Fair enough, no one should expect one issue to fix society as a whole

2018-06-05 21:00:22 UTC  

you take guns from the people, even if you managed to monopolize all projectile weapons in the world to governemnt control, you would simply make the power imbalance between people hinge on a badge and a loisense that states "im a good guy and theres nothing you can do about it now"

2018-06-05 21:01:43 UTC  

if your government just wants to make you weaker than the people the government says are allowed to be strong, then the government is a criminal organization

2018-06-05 21:02:10 UTC  

of course you have to have a baseline trust your government...

2018-06-05 21:02:31 UTC  

we ensure trust by having a balance of force

2018-06-05 21:02:47 UTC  

if i was living in Venezuela i would probably think differently 😉

2018-06-05 21:03:23 UTC  

no one should have blind trust in anything, not even themselves

2018-06-05 21:04:57 UTC  

blind trust is something different than having a baseline trust that your democracy works

2018-06-05 21:05:50 UTC  

democracys actually require more power to the people than other forms of government

2018-06-05 21:07:02 UTC  

obviously 😄

2018-06-05 21:07:34 UTC  

dictatorships are not really that high on the whole power to the people thing 😄

2018-06-05 21:08:51 UTC  

because democracys distribute responcibility for the direction and actions of the society among the people more directly than more autocratic systems. this requires more enforcement on the part of the people to ensure the governemnt acts in the intrest of the people because its ultimately more of them who are responcible for it, as such they require the power to do that, and that power enforced through ensurence of violence between people and state

2018-06-05 21:10:04 UTC  

you only have insurence of violence between people and state when the people or state can insure that they can successfuly enforce their whim on one another through violence

2018-06-05 21:10:32 UTC  

the state does this with a military and police force, the people do this through being an armed milita

2018-06-05 21:11:22 UTC  

the people also hold the country hostage from the state in a way because in order to deal with its own people the state risks collateral damage

2018-06-05 21:12:56 UTC  

There is a problem democracy has not learned to weight into its governmental systems adequately. Specialization in the age of Merchant Guilds was limited in contrast to today. A doctorate of philosophy covered every accrued field of knowledge. Today, that is not possible. It is not possible to have professional specialists weighted according to their value in a polity which is 99% ignorant of their specialty.

2018-06-06 00:32:59 UTC  

If Rose turns out to be a spy for the empire - everything ties together and makes sense.. and her character becomes awesome

2018-06-06 00:33:42 UTC  

who is rose?

2018-06-06 00:33:57 UTC  

was that the plumber commisar turned PR expert?

2018-06-06 00:34:12 UTC  

Trans character

2018-06-06 00:34:35 UTC  

the one who got all the abuse and deleted her instagram

2018-06-06 00:35:02 UTC  

was this in solo?

2018-06-06 00:35:12 UTC  

havent seen solo

2018-06-06 00:35:59 UTC  

she was trans?

2018-06-06 00:37:05 UTC  

her real name is tran 😛

2018-06-06 00:38:11 UTC  

Wouldn't really make sense if she was a spy. First Order succeeded, wouldn't she have gotten herself killed?

2018-06-06 00:39:01 UTC  

if its a normal spy only the top brass in the empire would know she was on their side

2018-06-06 00:39:27 UTC  

But she was on one of the ships of the fleet the First Order was shooting down.

2018-06-06 00:39:39 UTC  

Might make sense, after all if they kill the rebels then they never find their allies

2018-06-06 00:39:44 UTC  

thats why she had to stop finn .. but try not to kill him and blow her cover

2018-06-06 00:40:05 UTC  

If they let the rebels send out their signal then they can find and kill their allies

2018-06-06 00:40:57 UTC  

But again, if it wasn't for this side mission where they left the fleet, she would've been on one of the ships that the First Order was going to destroy.

2018-06-06 00:41:14 UTC  

By betraying this fleet she would've been killing herself.

2018-06-06 00:42:06 UTC  

You're looking for something that isn't there. It was just a badly written movie.

2018-06-06 00:42:19 UTC  

You're presuming that the empire wants her to survive

2018-06-06 00:42:31 UTC  

The loose ends aren't secret plot twists. They're just bad writing.

2018-06-06 00:42:50 UTC  

And what about her sister?

2018-06-06 00:42:59 UTC  

What sister?