Message from @Blackhawk342

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2018-06-06 02:47:05 UTC  

its so different that the comparison is mindboggling

2018-06-06 02:47:21 UTC  

its like apples to dogs

2018-06-06 02:47:28 UTC  

Because if celebrities must be kept safe from negative comments, these social media companies are going to have to invest heavily in censoring technology.

2018-06-06 02:47:43 UTC  

Humans won't be able to handle the job.

2018-06-06 02:47:45 UTC  

A small time actor will not have a money to have someone manage their account and yes it can stop you from using the net. You have to read a mesage to work out if you want to ban that person. Therer come a point where you are spending more time blocking ppl than have a convocation.

2018-06-06 02:47:53 UTC  

now were discussing something different

2018-06-06 02:48:40 UTC  

No, we're not. If you're a celebrity you're an idiot if you're associating your real name and identity to a social media account you actually intend to use for personal use.

2018-06-06 02:49:02 UTC  

And if you don't intend to use it for personal use, then you have to expect to receive criticism.

2018-06-06 02:49:11 UTC  

What about the account you set up to talk to your fans?

2018-06-06 02:49:21 UTC  

You're going to get hate.

2018-06-06 02:49:28 UTC  

You have to learn to deal with it.

2018-06-06 02:49:32 UTC  

theres a difference between criticism and insult

2018-06-06 02:49:58 UTC  

Too bad. The internet isn't a nice place.

2018-06-06 02:50:32 UTC  

The only way to turn the internet into a hugbox is powerful machine-driven censorship.

2018-06-06 02:50:40 UTC  

your responce to the problem is "i like the way things are and anyone who has a problem with the way things are legitiment or not can fuck off" its not a very useful responce

2018-06-06 02:50:51 UTC  

Because this isn't a problem.

2018-06-06 02:50:59 UTC  

it is a problem

2018-06-06 02:51:01 UTC  

You do have the right to insult someone

2018-06-06 02:51:06 UTC  

its older than the internet

2018-06-06 02:51:14 UTC  

If I go down to speaker's corner and say stuff that people don't like, I can expect a crowd to yell shit at me.

2018-06-06 02:51:16 UTC  

You do not have the right to make them listen to your insults

2018-06-06 02:51:23 UTC  

It's not a bug. It's a feature.

2018-06-06 02:51:50 UTC  

The only way to prevent the crowd yelling shit at me is censorship.

2018-06-06 02:52:58 UTC  

The crowd is just bigger online.

2018-06-06 02:54:15 UTC  

the internet for these people is like a place where to expose themselves as who they really are requires them to be exposed to mobs, mob sized quantitys of both praise and hate. its like walking down the street to the groscery store while being followed by thousands of people cheering and booing constantly and your responce is "the only way to solve this (and i would even take the time to consiter any other solution) would ruin everything so this person has to suffer the consaquences of the system"

2018-06-06 02:55:11 UTC  

They can make a pseudonymous account. They do not have to use their real identity.

2018-06-06 02:55:21 UTC  

how fun

2018-06-06 02:55:49 UTC  

What is your proposal?

2018-06-06 02:56:35 UTC  

i havent gotten to one yet, ive been to busy pointing out how giving up on finding a solution isint a solution

2018-06-06 02:57:06 UTC  

^^

2018-06-06 02:57:14 UTC  

its simply the status quo until something better comes along

2018-06-06 02:58:16 UTC  

"something better" is probably going to be some form of machine driven censorship, because how else are you going to prevent people from saying what they want to say to a public figure on social media?

2018-06-06 02:59:15 UTC  

some bot will detect an insult and shadowban you. the celebrity gets to bask in a sea of only positive comments.

2018-06-06 03:01:21 UTC  

something better is subjective i can conceed but i leave something better into the hands of universal acceptence to actually agree on an preposed idea that is actually good and not just seemingly good to one group of people. your seemingly good is also subjective and only applicible to people who think the same as you, its just that i believe your idea of doing nothing is better than doing worse. im open to doing better though. however my argument has been more toward not presuposing that someone your talking to who is looking for a solution will only assume a solution that you dont agree with and is the solution you assume is the only one they can come up with before they have even postulated one

2018-06-06 03:01:36 UTC  

i think one big problem is that these ppl seem to think that the only way to deal with the shit is to delete their account, when we all know that if you give it a few weeks it will die down and ppl will of moved on and any coming after that should be easier to manage.

2018-06-06 03:01:49 UTC  

wow that was a lot of words to say you don't know

2018-06-06 03:02:25 UTC  

you have a career in politics ahead of you

2018-06-06 03:02:27 UTC  

i have a spelling learning disability, not a vocabulary learning disability

2018-06-06 03:02:36 UTC  

hahah

2018-06-06 03:02:41 UTC  

dont assume they are the same thing

2018-06-06 03:03:30 UTC  

There are bascially two solutions to any problem: top down or bottom up