Message from @Blackhawk342

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2018-06-06 03:13:57 UTC  

see i dont think the problem is that top down solutions exist, people have used top down solutions since people had self awareness. but the issue is that these few people who have problems with the system, and i do think their problems are legitament, have solutions implamented for them that effect millions of people at the same time who dont care or even know whats happening at the time

2018-06-06 03:15:00 UTC  

infact this may already exist, if so and this actress chose not to use it then yeah there's no helping them

2018-06-06 03:16:32 UTC  

if it doesent already exist then i think it should. yes when companys create algorythmic machines they do tend to use them on everyone, but THATS the problem, that implamentation takes a tool to solve a problem for some people and makes it a chore for all people in the world to have to deal with

2018-06-06 03:18:37 UTC  

The post office does that at great time and cost because it is a public safety issue. It may literally save someones life.

2018-06-06 03:18:56 UTC  

This is trying to stop peoples feelings from being hurt.

2018-06-06 03:20:30 UTC  

What you are seggusting is literally a sweeping censorship machine that will have to monitor all traffic on the platform.

2018-06-06 03:21:37 UTC  

It will have to monitor all traffic from all users because if someone opts into the program, and still gets hate mail theyll make a public stink about it.

2018-06-06 03:22:22 UTC  

didint i just say it WASENT a sweeping cencorship machine?

2018-06-06 03:22:53 UTC  

it doesent censor, it blinds

2018-06-06 03:23:14 UTC  

thats a good line, i cant wait for dictatorships around the world to start using it

2018-06-06 03:23:33 UTC  

no thats litterally the idea of how it works

2018-06-06 03:23:36 UTC  

China doesnt censor information about the tienamen square massacare to its citizens, it just blinds them to it

2018-06-06 03:23:48 UTC  

The information is still out there they just cant see it

2018-06-06 03:24:14 UTC  

they dont get the option to opt in because they arnt given the option to opt out

2018-06-06 03:24:25 UTC  

So this has to be a two party opt in system?

2018-06-06 03:24:41 UTC  

how about i just discribe it in detail

2018-06-06 03:24:47 UTC  

both the sender and receiver of the message have to opt into the system for it to work?

2018-06-06 03:25:26 UTC  

Let me guess, insulter sends a message and they see it as sent, everyone else can see it but the person they sent it to or that it mentions if it does so in a negative way sees something different or nothing at all

2018-06-06 03:25:52 UTC  

as far as the rest of the world is concerned the message still exists, but the intended target is none the wiser

2018-06-06 03:26:18 UTC  

basicly the idea is a bot that only functions AT ALL when you choose to use it that filters through things on whatever platform your on and you chose what you want and dont want to see, and that bot then hides information from YOU and only you and no other person but you

2018-06-06 03:27:42 UTC  

so in order to have this work you would need to do two things every minute of everyday

2018-06-06 03:27:55 UTC  

1- Monitor who has engaged the bot and who has not

2018-06-06 03:28:18 UTC  

This would require tracking every user on the network to know if they have or have not opted in

2018-06-06 03:28:41 UTC  

2- Track all information sent and received over the platform

2018-06-06 03:29:58 UTC  

Anyone can harass you at any time, so all of your incoming messages have to be read Additionally they have to look at what everyone else is sending to their friends because you dont want to see a tweet talking down to you get 100000 retweets. You want that blocked.

2018-06-06 03:31:25 UTC  

i supose were using twitter as a bases. btw are you a programer? because your idea of how this would work is a bit archaic

2018-06-06 03:31:45 UTC  

twitter already does this, it just applys it to everyone

2018-06-06 03:31:57 UTC  

with its filter system

2018-06-06 03:32:27 UTC  

basis*

2018-06-06 03:34:02 UTC  

I assume so, unless you would like to invent a new platform and do this

2018-06-06 03:34:33 UTC  

honestly the more complex thing about this idea is already the part they are currently working on which is creating an algorythme that understands what its doing, which it currently doesent, however the aplication of censorship or filtering isint difficult technology anymore

2018-06-06 03:34:59 UTC  

Oh no its not, if a government can do it then companies should have no problem doing so

2018-06-06 03:37:21 UTC  

this bot wouldent need to track all users who are using the bot, dont even know why it would, all it needs to do is run through the html as it loads for you and hide anything that youve set it to hide. and thats a very simple and not even practical method which wouldent work over the entire internet so id more so suggest propriatary bots that utilize the code each website engine uses in order to do basicly that very same task.

2018-06-06 03:38:39 UTC  

twitter has more or less already layed the groundwork for how the gui for it would opperate with its native filters like that thing you sometimes see looking at a thread where the older tweet doesent seem to exist but when you click on it it then loads and shows you the tweet. thats basicly how this would opperate but only you would see it

2018-06-06 03:40:31 UTC  

twitter isint going to do that though and neither is any company because they like the idea of social engineering and are trying to play the long game where they have monopolized audiences where they have full control over what people see so that they can use it for whatever they want, sell it to companys, advertisment selection, propagandizement, sky is the limit for control over groupthink

2018-06-06 03:40:50 UTC  

their only going to change when they are forced to

2018-06-06 03:44:36 UTC  

I assumed that if it was a bot it was a third party program and not something loaded into user's interface

2018-06-06 03:45:08 UTC  

But yes you are correct about twitter's outlook and methods

2018-06-06 03:45:11 UTC  

it could be third party but it would work a lot better being prapriatary

2018-06-06 03:47:30 UTC  

working with just the front end code, its posible to do because pretty much all websites use relitively the same front end to display information that you can also do anything with, websites like twitter being the most simplistic, however back end is always more useful AND if twitter was actually altruistic (they arnt) they would make it more well known and when people had complaints directly to twitter they would be able to suggest it rather than doing the bullshit they usually do

2018-06-06 03:49:23 UTC  

im also working on the idea of us living 3 or 4 years ago before twitter was pulling all the algyrythmic ai censor bullshit and insted chose to go in a different less extreme direction. back then a 3rd party could have even came out with this and then twitter could have scooped them up and used them. like candid