Message from @Blackhawk342

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2018-06-06 03:02:41 UTC  

dont assume they are the same thing

2018-06-06 03:03:30 UTC  

There are bascially two solutions to any problem: top down or bottom up

2018-06-06 03:03:42 UTC  

and it would also help to think about what someone is talking to you about rather than just coming up with a way to downplay them, even if your losing an argument

2018-06-06 03:03:51 UTC  

in this case top down would be instituting some sort of automated block or censorship feature

2018-06-06 03:04:22 UTC  

bottom up would be teaching people better ways to express their displeasure./encouraging more productive conversation

2018-06-06 03:04:53 UTC  

But sometimes you just want to call someone a cock and be done with it.

2018-06-06 03:05:37 UTC  

just 40 thousand people calling you a cock just one time is kinda sucky

2018-06-06 03:05:58 UTC  

I would hate the idea that everything I'm reading that has been sent to me has been through a fillter to get rid of the narsty. I'd need a way to let every tenth or so through if it was getting that bad.

2018-06-06 03:06:16 UTC  

I bet it does. this is the problem innit.

2018-06-06 03:06:21 UTC  

its kind of the bike cuck meme. you got 40k hatemail but it did make one person 1 message happier, so thats ok right?

2018-06-06 03:06:46 UTC  

i got 40k messages of hate mail and i was pretty bummed about it

2018-06-06 03:07:03 UTC  

but then i thought that those people who sent the hate mail were happier to send it than I was sad to get it

2018-06-06 03:07:04 UTC  

so

2018-06-06 03:07:06 UTC  

whatever

2018-06-06 03:10:38 UTC  

The birds have started singing, time to get some beauty sleep. night.

2018-06-06 03:11:11 UTC  

When the birds are up you know youve been up too late

2018-06-06 03:11:34 UTC  

see what MIGHT be a ok middle ground, though personally i prefer perhaps an education system that doesent both generate people who think they deserve constant praise and also people who think that the best thing to do when they dont like something that doesent actually have a direct effect on their livelyhood is to send people shit in the mail. but if theres a top down solution, id prefer that solution be opt in insted of a sweeping censor machine that monitors all interactions on a platform. the idea would be something that acts like a mail reader, or like how to post office checks your mail for anthrax. but its something you choose to use rather than something that everyone has forced on them

2018-06-06 03:13:57 UTC  

see i dont think the problem is that top down solutions exist, people have used top down solutions since people had self awareness. but the issue is that these few people who have problems with the system, and i do think their problems are legitament, have solutions implamented for them that effect millions of people at the same time who dont care or even know whats happening at the time

2018-06-06 03:15:00 UTC  

infact this may already exist, if so and this actress chose not to use it then yeah there's no helping them

2018-06-06 03:16:32 UTC  

if it doesent already exist then i think it should. yes when companys create algorythmic machines they do tend to use them on everyone, but THATS the problem, that implamentation takes a tool to solve a problem for some people and makes it a chore for all people in the world to have to deal with

2018-06-06 03:18:37 UTC  

The post office does that at great time and cost because it is a public safety issue. It may literally save someones life.

2018-06-06 03:18:56 UTC  

This is trying to stop peoples feelings from being hurt.

2018-06-06 03:20:30 UTC  

What you are seggusting is literally a sweeping censorship machine that will have to monitor all traffic on the platform.

2018-06-06 03:21:37 UTC  

It will have to monitor all traffic from all users because if someone opts into the program, and still gets hate mail theyll make a public stink about it.

2018-06-06 03:22:22 UTC  

didint i just say it WASENT a sweeping cencorship machine?

2018-06-06 03:22:53 UTC  

it doesent censor, it blinds

2018-06-06 03:23:14 UTC  

thats a good line, i cant wait for dictatorships around the world to start using it

2018-06-06 03:23:33 UTC  

no thats litterally the idea of how it works

2018-06-06 03:23:36 UTC  

China doesnt censor information about the tienamen square massacare to its citizens, it just blinds them to it

2018-06-06 03:23:48 UTC  

The information is still out there they just cant see it

2018-06-06 03:24:14 UTC  

they dont get the option to opt in because they arnt given the option to opt out

2018-06-06 03:24:25 UTC  

So this has to be a two party opt in system?

2018-06-06 03:24:41 UTC  

how about i just discribe it in detail

2018-06-06 03:24:47 UTC  

both the sender and receiver of the message have to opt into the system for it to work?

2018-06-06 03:25:26 UTC  

Let me guess, insulter sends a message and they see it as sent, everyone else can see it but the person they sent it to or that it mentions if it does so in a negative way sees something different or nothing at all

2018-06-06 03:25:52 UTC  

as far as the rest of the world is concerned the message still exists, but the intended target is none the wiser

2018-06-06 03:26:18 UTC  

basicly the idea is a bot that only functions AT ALL when you choose to use it that filters through things on whatever platform your on and you chose what you want and dont want to see, and that bot then hides information from YOU and only you and no other person but you

2018-06-06 03:27:42 UTC  

so in order to have this work you would need to do two things every minute of everyday

2018-06-06 03:27:55 UTC  

1- Monitor who has engaged the bot and who has not

2018-06-06 03:28:18 UTC  

This would require tracking every user on the network to know if they have or have not opted in

2018-06-06 03:28:41 UTC  

2- Track all information sent and received over the platform