Message from @Poppy Rider

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2018-06-06 19:25:07 UTC  

It is a sign that a comunity has decided breaking a leg will not crush your life. Everyone has everyone elses back.

2018-06-06 19:26:21 UTC  

your news media seems to think otherwise

2018-06-06 19:26:37 UTC  

i really dont hear any storys of people breaking a leg here in the united states being the end of their lives

2018-06-06 19:27:55 UTC  

I'm not going to read the BBC and esp the guardian. The NHS is a stick to beat who ever is in power with.

2018-06-06 19:28:17 UTC  

truth be told, i haven't really heard of any good system. You have affordable, available, and quality. You can only have 2.

2018-06-06 19:28:40 UTC  

one of the main reasons shit costs so much over here is insurance companies inflating prices to something stupid

2018-06-06 19:29:04 UTC  

The broken leg thing is more of a metaphor. Having something happen to you that was not your fault should not put you in massive debt.

2018-06-06 19:29:40 UTC  

You have a profit based system and no other choice. What do you expect to happen.

2018-06-06 19:29:48 UTC  

almost everyone here has insurence

2018-06-06 19:30:00 UTC  

within the workforce atleast

2018-06-06 19:30:08 UTC  

they demand "discounts" for the people they send over. So the hospital lists the price at some random cost, charges the insurance company the real cost, then the insurance company uses the listed price to charge you, and the hospital charges the uninsured the list price

2018-06-06 19:30:27 UTC  

of course, if its life threatening, you don't have to pay, and a hospital cannot refuse you.

2018-06-06 19:32:26 UTC  

so you have a bunch of fat cats milking ppl when they are most in need. Pushing everyones insurance cost ups up.

2018-06-06 19:33:15 UTC  

are we talking about the government or insurance companies? oh, which the government all but forces people to use over here.

2018-06-06 19:34:20 UTC  

either its the insurance companies taking the money, or government officials raiding funds to give themselves raises.

2018-06-06 19:34:36 UTC  

Thats my point. The Gov should provide health care. You have one buyer and no middle man skimming off the top.

2018-06-06 19:34:58 UTC  

the government IS the middle man.

2018-06-06 19:35:57 UTC  

get the government out of my healthcare. period.

2018-06-06 19:37:02 UTC  

At the moment, yes. If the Gov employed the Dr and owned the hospitals and there was no need to worrie about insurance if you are at a high risk of cancer.

2018-06-06 19:37:47 UTC  

okay, and who in the government decides how much a doctor is worth?

2018-06-06 19:38:10 UTC  

You can choose to have private health care here. But if that fails you you have the NHS to fall back on. Or if it's somehting small and you don't want to increase you insuance you can was the NHS.

2018-06-06 19:38:27 UTC  

private health care is always better

2018-06-06 19:38:29 UTC  

first the implement polices that make hospitals nothing but money sinks without charging crazy prices, then they try and force me to pay insurance companies, the solution to their own problem, then you want to give these guys the direct power to waste my money so i can't help anyone else?

2018-06-06 19:38:49 UTC  

competition makes things more competitive and yes, people make money, its a fact of life

2018-06-06 19:39:00 UTC  

the US within "crap health care system" does most of the worlds r&d

2018-06-06 19:39:16 UTC  

so all these socialist healthcare systems are riding on our coat tails

2018-06-06 19:39:42 UTC  

sure its got its problems and I do content that I dont' think anyone should go into poverty if they get sick

2018-06-06 19:39:53 UTC  

but it sure beats the competition, regardless of what people may think

2018-06-06 19:40:58 UTC  

i have more power to shape the system when i have money. much more than i have power to tell dick-wads who know nothing of healthcare who have the power to decide what does and doesn't make sense.

2018-06-06 19:41:08 UTC  

yup

2018-06-06 19:41:13 UTC  

and I can always find another doctor

2018-06-06 19:41:22 UTC  

instead of one "provided" to me if I don't like the care

2018-06-06 19:41:45 UTC  

i have enough of a problem at my work. When leaders doesn't listen to the boots on the ground, it always ends up poorly for the boots on the ground. and politicians NEVER listen.

2018-06-06 19:41:58 UTC  

and why would they? i have not CHOICE but to pay their salary.

2018-06-06 19:42:02 UTC  

or they come in with guns

2018-06-06 19:42:11 UTC  

oh and I dnt' have to pay taxes to cover medicine I wouldn't use because I'd go with private anyway

2018-06-06 19:42:34 UTC  

look at how fast Battlefront 2 got fucked.

2018-06-06 19:42:51 UTC  

we should have that power over our politicians