Message from @Dunk Massive

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2018-06-11 19:01:56 UTC  

Pro

2018-06-11 19:02:05 UTC  

i think real life should be ordered... and the internet should be anarchy

2018-06-11 19:02:13 UTC  

^

2018-06-11 19:02:20 UTC  

I think goverment tends fuck things up

2018-06-11 19:02:33 UTC  

the internet flourished without any regulation.. why start now?

2018-06-11 19:03:42 UTC  

Net Neutrality IS goverment regulation

2018-06-11 19:04:01 UTC  

riight that's what I mean

2018-06-11 19:06:38 UTC  

Thing is, if you regulate anything, you are now responsible for the things that slip through

2018-06-11 19:06:48 UTC  

That

2018-06-11 19:06:50 UTC  

and also

2018-06-11 19:07:01 UTC  

the FTC is much better at going after companies that do shady shit

2018-06-11 19:07:29 UTC  

which is basically all that happened, responsibility went from the FCC (a freaking licensing wing) to the FTC which actually can do shit

2018-06-11 19:07:32 UTC  

How you gonna regulate something as anomalous as a network. And arguably its not exactly something on your priority since its all on the "dark net". Even then thats rather difficult anyway.

2018-06-11 19:08:07 UTC  

the FTC already has unfair and deceptive practices authority, it's what they do

2018-06-11 19:08:19 UTC  

and they do it in all industries..

2018-06-11 19:08:52 UTC  

so as long as things are not "unfair or deceptive" laissez-faire

2018-06-11 19:10:59 UTC  

Well more like spend the money else where instead of your inquisition against immorality

2018-06-11 19:16:30 UTC  

is farmlands out yet?

2018-06-11 19:18:09 UTC  

doesn't look like it

2018-06-11 19:23:12 UTC  

No farmlands. Apparently it wasn't normie compatible so extra bits are being added to explain some history

2018-06-11 19:25:18 UTC  

By the time it's released there will be no South Africa, so I guess the added history is kind of a good idea lol

2018-06-11 19:29:53 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 if I had a choice in ISP, probably not long. Unfortunately this is the real hurdle that even made net neutrality really any kind of potential issue. You have like 1 or 2 options for ISPs in a lot of places if you don't want to deal with sat internet.

2018-06-11 19:33:33 UTC  

I dont thinkt hat would have changed with NN

2018-06-11 19:33:40 UTC  

infrastructure costs money

2018-06-11 19:34:10 UTC  

and any goverment subsidies by the likes of ATT have been squandered to put infrastructure in rural places, so I dont' trust it anyway

2018-06-11 19:35:00 UTC  

It’s not just money, the regulatory hurdles required to start your own ISP are so intense that even Google is having problems expanding Google Fiber

2018-06-11 19:35:52 UTC  

meh alot of that is ATT being assholes

2018-06-11 19:35:56 UTC  

but I understand it

2018-06-11 19:36:02 UTC  

or other ocmpanies

2018-06-11 19:36:19 UTC  

basically their shit is working on the poles and they dont want some random person f'n with it

2018-06-11 19:37:48 UTC  

so yes they're being assholes but they are protecting their own stuff at the same time, not that I agree with it but understand it...

2018-06-11 19:38:41 UTC  

That is one problem, though from what I know Google runs their own lines (and often does a poor job)

2018-06-11 19:40:07 UTC  

I have a buddy who’s an ATT tech, he says Google hires local contractors who often do shady shit like run lines through the road only inches deep and just leave it temporarily filled in

2018-06-11 19:41:01 UTC  

When Australia wins the space race y'all can use our satellite internet

2018-06-11 19:41:17 UTC  

NN didn't solve anything really

2018-06-11 19:41:29 UTC  

outside of making everything probably slower

2018-06-11 19:41:41 UTC  

because video steaming and stuff takes up a LOT of bandwidth

2018-06-11 19:42:05 UTC  

I can’t wait to purchase the chat package that includes discord

2018-06-11 19:44:49 UTC  

It worked the opposite here, ISPs would offer freebies to say Facebook to outbid for customers, everything else is the same price

2018-06-11 19:46:28 UTC  

its a bit of an iffy thing,

WITH NN, theres no need to compete since theres no new customer base, cuz everyone is required to get the same package, so price is the only thing that matters,
And to invest into making new internet across US might not give desirable returns

2018-06-11 19:46:55 UTC  

So you´re stuck with shitty internet since no company bothers being better, theres no competition