Message from @Nine

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2018-06-16 01:51:28 UTC  

I remember an argument I had with someone online. We both agreed that the whole value of a degree of essentially just the resume marker; it didn't really mark education that well. The argument was if the cost to have a marker was worth it if we have embedded paths for minorities to obtain said marker.

2018-06-16 01:52:34 UTC  

Or if that there was even less of a gurantee that the holder was qualified?

2018-06-16 01:53:12 UTC  

What was his arguments for it?

2018-06-16 01:58:40 UTC  

Essentially that it offered a recognizable reference on a resume for people from different backgrounds. It's harder to get jobs if recruiters have to frame of reference for the value of any of the things on the resume

2018-06-16 02:00:08 UTC  

Oh I meant the minority part of it

2018-06-16 02:02:09 UTC  

Oh, since the degree doesn't really show any mastery to begin with, it's more that the person is willing to get it despite the costs because of the opportunities it provides

2018-06-16 02:03:27 UTC  

But wouldnt that devalue it more the easier they make it for said minorities

2018-06-16 02:04:01 UTC  

We never came to an agreement

2018-06-16 02:05:55 UTC  

Eh I kinda see a contradiction.

2018-06-16 02:06:15 UTC  

Make it easier for minorities since qualification isnt the skill but the passion for it.

2018-06-16 02:06:57 UTC  

Making it easier means the effort or passion needed isnt as high. Degree value goes down since its so easy to get in.

2018-06-16 02:08:07 UTC  

Part of it is assumed that the normal financial cost is harder to meet for the minority, so it'd be greater time effort to pay off

2018-06-16 02:09:58 UTC  

At the cost of everyone else minority or no that is not under any financial harship having their degrees devalued.

2018-06-16 02:10:58 UTC  

Why cant they take a trade or a factory job instead. Then their kids can go to collage.

2018-06-16 02:12:16 UTC  

That's giving up your potential for the idea of the offspring. A lot of people don't think like that

2018-06-16 02:12:46 UTC  

Or explain that people can suffer as well if those people end up in positions they didnt qualify from.

2018-06-16 02:13:12 UTC  

The degree holder is un prepared, and their work quality will go down. That can kill.

2018-06-16 02:13:51 UTC  

Again, that's thinking too far ahead for some people

2018-06-16 02:13:57 UTC  

Cause more distaste for diversity, like wtf did they hire her, shes so shit.

2018-06-16 02:14:20 UTC  

And they find out shes a diversity hire, and they stew.

2018-06-16 02:14:47 UTC  

It was a frustrating argument.

2018-06-16 02:16:18 UTC  

What are your opinions on the nature article claiming that diversity is required in scientific research?

2018-06-16 02:16:24 UTC  

So its about now. Hmm now I know when people say games make people devalue delayed gratification

2018-06-16 02:17:40 UTC  

That's more my interpretation of what she said than what she probably actually said

2018-06-16 02:18:47 UTC  

Well id be pissed if I found out I was passed for promotion for some diversity hire. That would make me more racist than I am now.

2018-06-16 02:20:17 UTC  

I don't mind diversity as a tie breaker, but it shouldn't have any value unless in that final position.

2018-06-16 02:23:02 UTC  

I mean if that person is more qualified then sure.

2018-06-16 02:23:34 UTC  

But I mean like if I was more qualified. Though that is subjective as hell.

2018-06-16 02:23:54 UTC  

Hell mayber diversity is just the safe option reason to be lazier.

2018-06-16 02:26:25 UTC  

There are two main parts for hiring: qualifications and potential fit in the environment. Diversity shouldn't really be related to either.

2018-06-16 02:28:03 UTC  

Well your race shouldnt be an issue if you are good with people. As long as it dosent affect your performance I guess.

2018-06-16 02:59:46 UTC  

Holy Shit! That Gab tweet!

2018-06-16 03:01:29 UTC  

"Imagine thinking that Gab will bend the knee to red coats. I’ll dump thousands of pounds of tea into the Atlantic before I let that happen. The Queen could call us up asking us to ban someone for “offensive speech” and we would tell her to kiss our hillbilly redneck American ass." - Gab

2018-06-16 03:02:39 UTC  

I shoudl make a gab account.

2018-06-16 03:02:45 UTC  

Imagine if trump did

2018-06-16 03:02:49 UTC  

I think I've just been fucking convinced.

2018-06-16 03:03:10 UTC  

"The UK government can kiss our ass.

The German government can kiss our ass.

The Canadian government can kiss our ass.

The Russian government can kiss our ass.

Free Speech will reign forever more."

2018-06-16 03:03:37 UTC  

You can kick their asses for a change

2018-06-16 03:03:58 UTC  

Make them beg to kiss yours like nk

2018-06-16 03:04:40 UTC  

Gab's twitter account is a goldmine museum.

2018-06-16 03:04:52 UTC  

So many good things happening right now