Message from @Nine

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2018-06-16 00:15:49 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 I've already advise any people younger than me to look at trade schools or take time and learn shit yourself before even looking at college. I say it's not worth it for most things and that was before the SJW rot really set it.

2018-06-16 00:20:08 UTC  

It also depends upon what your definition of worth it is

2018-06-16 00:27:34 UTC  

This is amazing.

2018-06-16 00:31:33 UTC  

Can’t dab on Gab

2018-06-16 00:36:34 UTC  

Can gab survive off solely banned twitter rejects?

2018-06-16 00:44:11 UTC  

Well kinda wish I took carpentry or something.

2018-06-16 00:50:12 UTC  

I know that my family didnt have to worry about paying for college because they started saving for it 30 years ago

2018-06-16 00:52:04 UTC  

If you can put away 4k per year for 30 years you can easily afford 4-5 years at most colleges

2018-06-16 00:53:13 UTC  

Realistically thats not an option for most people who have to pay off student loans

2018-06-16 00:54:09 UTC  

Theyll probably spend 10-20 years paying it off

2018-06-16 00:54:45 UTC  

Compared to trade school which costs a fraction of college and provides you with a job/work expirence as you go through it

2018-06-16 01:06:48 UTC  

Shit, well I have no debt, realized I dont have the heart for programming and decided to just make pickeled veges for sale.

2018-06-16 01:51:28 UTC  

I remember an argument I had with someone online. We both agreed that the whole value of a degree of essentially just the resume marker; it didn't really mark education that well. The argument was if the cost to have a marker was worth it if we have embedded paths for minorities to obtain said marker.

2018-06-16 01:52:34 UTC  

Or if that there was even less of a gurantee that the holder was qualified?

2018-06-16 01:53:12 UTC  

What was his arguments for it?

2018-06-16 01:58:40 UTC  

Essentially that it offered a recognizable reference on a resume for people from different backgrounds. It's harder to get jobs if recruiters have to frame of reference for the value of any of the things on the resume

2018-06-16 02:00:08 UTC  

Oh I meant the minority part of it

2018-06-16 02:02:09 UTC  

Oh, since the degree doesn't really show any mastery to begin with, it's more that the person is willing to get it despite the costs because of the opportunities it provides

2018-06-16 02:03:27 UTC  

But wouldnt that devalue it more the easier they make it for said minorities

2018-06-16 02:04:01 UTC  

We never came to an agreement

2018-06-16 02:05:55 UTC  

Eh I kinda see a contradiction.

2018-06-16 02:06:15 UTC  

Make it easier for minorities since qualification isnt the skill but the passion for it.

2018-06-16 02:06:57 UTC  

Making it easier means the effort or passion needed isnt as high. Degree value goes down since its so easy to get in.

2018-06-16 02:08:07 UTC  

Part of it is assumed that the normal financial cost is harder to meet for the minority, so it'd be greater time effort to pay off

2018-06-16 02:09:58 UTC  

At the cost of everyone else minority or no that is not under any financial harship having their degrees devalued.

2018-06-16 02:10:58 UTC  

Why cant they take a trade or a factory job instead. Then their kids can go to collage.

2018-06-16 02:12:16 UTC  

That's giving up your potential for the idea of the offspring. A lot of people don't think like that

2018-06-16 02:12:46 UTC  

Or explain that people can suffer as well if those people end up in positions they didnt qualify from.

2018-06-16 02:13:12 UTC  

The degree holder is un prepared, and their work quality will go down. That can kill.

2018-06-16 02:13:51 UTC  

Again, that's thinking too far ahead for some people

2018-06-16 02:13:57 UTC  

Cause more distaste for diversity, like wtf did they hire her, shes so shit.

2018-06-16 02:14:20 UTC  

And they find out shes a diversity hire, and they stew.

2018-06-16 02:14:47 UTC  

It was a frustrating argument.

2018-06-16 02:16:18 UTC  

What are your opinions on the nature article claiming that diversity is required in scientific research?

2018-06-16 02:16:24 UTC  

So its about now. Hmm now I know when people say games make people devalue delayed gratification

2018-06-16 02:17:40 UTC  

That's more my interpretation of what she said than what she probably actually said

2018-06-16 02:18:47 UTC  

Well id be pissed if I found out I was passed for promotion for some diversity hire. That would make me more racist than I am now.

2018-06-16 02:20:17 UTC  

I don't mind diversity as a tie breaker, but it shouldn't have any value unless in that final position.

2018-06-16 02:23:02 UTC  

I mean if that person is more qualified then sure.

2018-06-16 02:23:34 UTC  

But I mean like if I was more qualified. Though that is subjective as hell.