Message from @Nine

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2018-06-17 19:48:17 UTC  

I use avidemux to turn up the gain without extracting audio and puting it back

2018-06-17 19:48:44 UTC  

i can imagine "severety of rape" is a normal distribution bell curve, and "severety of murder" is a normal distribution bell curve, and that the severety of murder median is more to the right then the severety of rape median

2018-06-17 19:49:16 UTC  

but that there is overlap and there would be cases where any random rape picked could be worse then any random murder picked

2018-06-17 19:49:49 UTC  

horizontal would be severety, vertical would be number of cases (rapes/murders)

2018-06-17 19:50:14 UTC  

Yes but regardless of severity, murder is well defined from start to finish, rape is a grey area at one end and defined at the other end

2018-06-17 19:51:13 UTC  

You can't debate if someone was murdered or not, some rape cases are a debate

2018-06-17 19:51:54 UTC  

Has anyone here seen the film 'A Time To Kill'?

2018-06-17 19:51:58 UTC  

i dono i think you can debate if someone is murdered

2018-06-17 19:51:58 UTC  

They are in different categories and can't reasonably be compared in any way

2018-06-17 19:52:40 UTC  

as per religion morality of cristianity for example, lethal injection for terminal and suffering patients would be murder by the injector

2018-06-17 19:52:47 UTC  

where other ethics it wouldnt be

2018-06-17 19:52:49 UTC  

A bloke kills the man that raped his daughter and the film is about his court case and whether he had the right to.

2018-06-17 19:52:54 UTC  

It's not like Mac Vs Linux, it's bananas Vs Cars

2018-06-17 19:53:13 UTC  

then again, in my bell curve example, that might count as a very unsevere murder

2018-06-17 19:53:31 UTC  

i wouldnt care tbh, id kill him and try to get out of it

2018-06-17 19:53:41 UTC  

but even if i did end up in prison, id be ok with it

2018-06-17 19:54:12 UTC  

so it is morally OK to take some ones life if they rape some one you love?

2018-06-17 19:54:18 UTC  

I'd go to prison if someone raped my daughter, doesn't make it right, but it would happen

2018-06-17 19:54:37 UTC  

I think most ppl would say you had the right to.

2018-06-17 19:54:42 UTC  

i believe so, if its my daughter, i also believe states should discourage vigilanties

2018-06-17 19:55:06 UTC  

You have the right to advocate for justice regarding the crime

2018-06-17 19:55:10 UTC  

its my passion verses my morals in that case

2018-06-17 19:55:33 UTC  

and i always fermly believe that i use my brain to get where my heart wants me to go, with open eyes and ears ofcourse

2018-06-17 19:55:45 UTC  

I don't think most people would say it's right, but I think most people would have thoughts about doing it anyway. And in this day and age they would talk themselves out of it

2018-06-17 19:56:11 UTC  

so i might be wrong, but i think in that situation my heart would ache so much it would override my brains

2018-06-17 19:56:40 UTC  

and once that happens, both heart and brains aimed directly at the dudes life

2018-06-17 19:57:02 UTC  

plus i wouldnt use a direct way, i prolly would be more sneaky then that

2018-06-17 19:57:25 UTC  

I don't think my heart would be involved, you have identified a person capable of rape, you sacrifice yourself to stop the chain of rape

2018-06-17 19:58:12 UTC  

One 'me' in jail is worth countless girls not being raped

2018-06-17 19:58:17 UTC  

I'm glad I don't live in the UK

2018-06-17 19:58:34 UTC  

Why what have we done now?

2018-06-17 19:58:55 UTC  

Everyone except Muslims are glad they don't live in the UK *jk

2018-06-17 19:59:42 UTC  

It's a harder question when you aren't sure your justice's system's purpose is justice

2018-06-17 20:00:33 UTC  

*social justice. Putting a qualifier before a word limits its meaning

2018-06-17 20:01:15 UTC  

UK has a social justice system, not a justice system

2018-06-17 20:01:40 UTC  

its always a question if its justice, as the appropriate punishment from the victims (relatives) perspective is not the best long term solution for the state

2018-06-17 20:01:53 UTC  

Dr Layman talked about this in a video

2018-06-17 20:02:56 UTC  

Thats half my point. I wouldn't kill someone if they robbed me but I would kill someone if raped the right person same aas I would if they killed the right person.

2018-06-17 20:02:57 UTC  

like, its pretty clear that long prison sentences without counceling etc etc dont work well for the perp, it tends not to reform him, where shorter heavily guided sentences do

2018-06-17 20:03:07 UTC  

but those are not just in the eyes of the victims

2018-06-17 20:03:35 UTC  

^^