Message from @Nine

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2018-06-17 19:52:40 UTC  

as per religion morality of cristianity for example, lethal injection for terminal and suffering patients would be murder by the injector

2018-06-17 19:52:47 UTC  

where other ethics it wouldnt be

2018-06-17 19:52:49 UTC  

A bloke kills the man that raped his daughter and the film is about his court case and whether he had the right to.

2018-06-17 19:52:54 UTC  

It's not like Mac Vs Linux, it's bananas Vs Cars

2018-06-17 19:53:13 UTC  

then again, in my bell curve example, that might count as a very unsevere murder

2018-06-17 19:53:31 UTC  

i wouldnt care tbh, id kill him and try to get out of it

2018-06-17 19:53:41 UTC  

but even if i did end up in prison, id be ok with it

2018-06-17 19:54:12 UTC  

so it is morally OK to take some ones life if they rape some one you love?

2018-06-17 19:54:18 UTC  

I'd go to prison if someone raped my daughter, doesn't make it right, but it would happen

2018-06-17 19:54:37 UTC  

I think most ppl would say you had the right to.

2018-06-17 19:54:42 UTC  

i believe so, if its my daughter, i also believe states should discourage vigilanties

2018-06-17 19:55:06 UTC  

You have the right to advocate for justice regarding the crime

2018-06-17 19:55:10 UTC  

its my passion verses my morals in that case

2018-06-17 19:55:33 UTC  

and i always fermly believe that i use my brain to get where my heart wants me to go, with open eyes and ears ofcourse

2018-06-17 19:55:45 UTC  

I don't think most people would say it's right, but I think most people would have thoughts about doing it anyway. And in this day and age they would talk themselves out of it

2018-06-17 19:56:11 UTC  

so i might be wrong, but i think in that situation my heart would ache so much it would override my brains

2018-06-17 19:56:40 UTC  

and once that happens, both heart and brains aimed directly at the dudes life

2018-06-17 19:57:02 UTC  

plus i wouldnt use a direct way, i prolly would be more sneaky then that

2018-06-17 19:57:25 UTC  

I don't think my heart would be involved, you have identified a person capable of rape, you sacrifice yourself to stop the chain of rape

2018-06-17 19:58:12 UTC  

One 'me' in jail is worth countless girls not being raped

2018-06-17 19:58:17 UTC  

I'm glad I don't live in the UK

2018-06-17 19:58:34 UTC  

Why what have we done now?

2018-06-17 19:58:55 UTC  

Everyone except Muslims are glad they don't live in the UK *jk

2018-06-17 19:59:42 UTC  

It's a harder question when you aren't sure your justice's system's purpose is justice

2018-06-17 20:00:33 UTC  

*social justice. Putting a qualifier before a word limits its meaning

2018-06-17 20:01:15 UTC  

UK has a social justice system, not a justice system

2018-06-17 20:01:40 UTC  

its always a question if its justice, as the appropriate punishment from the victims (relatives) perspective is not the best long term solution for the state

2018-06-17 20:01:53 UTC  

Dr Layman talked about this in a video

2018-06-17 20:02:56 UTC  

Thats half my point. I wouldn't kill someone if they robbed me but I would kill someone if raped the right person same aas I would if they killed the right person.

2018-06-17 20:02:57 UTC  

like, its pretty clear that long prison sentences without counceling etc etc dont work well for the perp, it tends not to reform him, where shorter heavily guided sentences do

2018-06-17 20:03:07 UTC  

but those are not just in the eyes of the victims

2018-06-17 20:03:35 UTC  

^^

2018-06-17 20:03:45 UTC  

the states job is to walk that line between justice and fixing behavior of the perp

2018-06-17 20:04:12 UTC  

a great example of this is america, where punishmetns for minor crimes are very high if you are a repeat offender, where you just learn to be an even bigger criminal in prison

2018-06-17 20:04:53 UTC  

I hate doing this, but I recently wrote up some thoughts on the matter: https://www.minds.com/blog/view/852683014122143744

2018-06-17 20:05:11 UTC  

on the other hand, minor sentences in scandinavia for muslim rapists/murderers because they dont know any better (its illegal in their countries too, oftern with death sentences, but everyone seems to forget that) makes people so bitter it will breed resentment and then the european race war will start

2018-06-17 20:05:41 UTC  

dont worry Tim, ill give you one of my house Asian cards when you come to belgium so you can report on the news safely

2018-06-17 20:05:45 UTC  

well

2018-06-17 20:05:50 UTC  

half a card, considering your mixed

2018-06-17 20:06:00 UTC  

lol

2018-06-17 20:06:46 UTC  

the sad thing is i am only half kidding about the European race war thing