Message from @possumsquat93
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Democratic socialism is different from social democracy, right? From my understanding, one is about replacing capitalism, and the other is about reforming it.
lets face it, both are about replacing it
the only change is
"We're TAKING your money for others"
Is changed to
"We're GIVING your money to others"
yea
DSA is anti capitalist
wants to give means of production to workers
I've just wondered if people are mixing up their terms when they say "democratic socialism."
Are they against private property, for instance?
can't speak for the DSA, cuz i haven't looked into them
but any democratic socialist, or social democrat
Eventually ends up with wanting to redistribute means of production, which ends up negating private property
social democrat is like scandinavia
they want a capitalistic welfare state
remove the qualifiers
Social democrat is a certain kind of democrat
Democratic socialist is a certian kind of socialist
Democratic socialist is just below the center line to the far left
authoritarian socialist is top left
I can agree with that discription, although i will say that the social democrats are a slippery slope
in Europe for example, the labor parties are often "social democrats" and in order to buy votes they wanna increase the welfare state,
Which is a slope that slowly starts claiming more, until people just pay the majority they earn into taxes
and Norway i believe pays its welfare state with state oil
Seems to me using these terms interchangeably is a bad idea.
they aren't the same,
Socialists (Democratic Socialists) wanna abolish capitalism all together,
Social Democrat want to have capitalism, but with high taxes to fund for public services
The issue with Social Democrats though is that they slowly keep wanting more public services, which leads to more taxes,
So in the end, instead of distributing the means of production, you just distribute the produce, having the same end result
as an extra example:
Under socialism, the poorest get free healthcare, so you can see a doctor.
Under social democracy, the poorest get subsidiaries, so they can pay for a doctor.
its not a literal example, but it gives you an idea of the end-goal difference
Social democracy is Sargon
Democratic socialism is Jeremy Corbin
Basically
and Social Degeneracy is Merkel 😉
*sits in corner, tempted to start the helicopters* 😂
*laughs in right-wing deathsquad*
what's the actual chance the dsa gains a real following?
depends on how well the Democratic Party is going to handle the next 2 years,
My prediction:
If they don't do it well and keep the current tactic, whats going to happen is that the Democratic party will implode and split into a socialist party (DSA) and normal Democratic Party
meaning the Republicans will win for the next few elections on account of them not being split, having money and the new Trump induced Rep-love
And the dems will be competing with the sols in the same regions, whilst the Reps remain solid in middle America
So instead of having votes like
50-50
You'll get 50-33-22 or something
its funny when people dont understand what left and right means
and they are like
"tim is right wing becuase he criticizes the left"
Its extremism Tim,
Only 1's and 0's
If you're not with us, you're on the other side
funny though, they removed the political spectrum and turned it into a binary
Whilst at the same time making the binary gender a spectrum 😉
you know, i think i just figured out part of youtube's identity crisis when it comes to their rules and enforcement: Pewdiepie.
how so?
he's too big for them to silence?