Message from @LOLTRON

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2018-07-03 12:01:27 UTC  

The other, more concerning issue is there is no way that data is *not* going to get misused, stolen and exploited.

2018-07-03 12:07:34 UTC  

it conserns you that data will in no way get misused, stolen, and exploited?

2018-07-03 12:08:38 UTC  

whoops. Fixed that.

2018-07-03 12:09:11 UTC  

`"Damnit, why is my massive database of 25million citizens not being hacked yet!"`

2018-07-03 12:13:10 UTC  

If the Australian Census taught us anything, it's that the government shouldn't be responsible for protecting anything big-data related.

2018-07-03 12:19:54 UTC  

its actually a fundomental job of the government to insure identification and regulating traffic within its borders though

2018-07-03 12:20:28 UTC  

i think the idea of biometrics is that its harder to steal that information rather than just being a number your assigned at birth

2018-07-03 12:20:41 UTC  

its tied to your dna

2018-07-03 12:25:43 UTC  

Is it?

2018-07-03 12:25:47 UTC  

I don't agree it is.

2018-07-03 12:27:12 UTC  

steal my dna

2018-07-03 12:28:02 UTC  

Sorry, no i mean I don't agree thats a fundamental job of the government...

2018-07-03 12:28:19 UTC  

The DNA record they collect is assigned to a number. Your Social Sec number.

2018-07-03 12:28:23 UTC  

if the government is to have a job it sure is

2018-07-03 12:28:31 UTC  

Along with a metrick fuck-tonne of other metadata

2018-07-03 12:28:35 UTC  

@Timcast please keep an eye on that crowd pac story censoring republicans from their platform id really like to know what happens with what the are doing about the election meddling argument that that girl is saying

2018-07-03 12:28:39 UTC  

its one of the oldest jobs government has had

2018-07-03 12:28:47 UTC  

like prostitution

2018-07-03 12:29:58 UTC  

Lawyer and plumbers are also old jobs

2018-07-03 12:30:01 UTC  

It may be something they do, but I don't agree its a responsibility of the government..

2018-07-03 12:31:25 UTC  

A government's job is to protect its border, and defend citizens rights to property.

2018-07-03 12:31:29 UTC  

That's fundamentally it

2018-07-03 12:31:34 UTC  

Everything else is scope creep.

2018-07-03 12:31:39 UTC  

@LOLTRON agree

2018-07-03 12:32:43 UTC  

And i am coming from a position where I am okay with government delivering critical services like energy, health care and infrastructure... But i don't think the government should be unilaterally tracking its citizens.

2018-07-03 12:32:49 UTC  

what good can come from that?

2018-07-03 12:35:03 UTC  

you cant protect the border without identification

2018-07-03 12:35:25 UTC  

unless you have a wall of fire around it

2018-07-03 12:35:36 UTC  

but then that keeps your own people inside

2018-07-03 12:35:51 UTC  

doesent really respect their freedom

2018-07-03 12:36:48 UTC  

I'm not saying the government doesn't need to have a record of its citizens. But i do think they don't need biometrics

2018-07-03 12:36:57 UTC  

biometrics just allows them to track citizens more easily

2018-07-03 12:37:06 UTC  

I don't think tracking citizens should be somethign that can be done easily

2018-07-03 12:37:10 UTC  

it should be hard, and expensive

2018-07-03 12:38:18 UTC  

explain how its easier for a government to track with biometrics

2018-07-03 12:39:13 UTC  

Biometrics includes facial recognition data.

2018-07-03 12:39:20 UTC  

DNA is but one element of biometrics

2018-07-03 12:40:01 UTC  

I have a friend who works for a multinational that sells facial recognition tech to government. They are throwing millions at this tech...

2018-07-03 12:40:05 UTC  

They want it everywhere.

2018-07-03 12:41:52 UTC  

see thats the thing "they want it everywhere" is the tracking part

2018-07-03 12:41:53 UTC  

It's not enough to say that "I haven't done anything wrong, so i have nothign to fear...", knowing you are under constant surveillance can heavily influence behaviour of people who haven't done anything wrong.