Message from Grenade123 in Subverse #newsroom

2018-07-03 13:16:47 UTC  

I'm a 100% Free Market Capitalist, therefore I support the average working guy, the small business owner, the freelance Web designer... NOT Google, Wall Street, or the Beltway. So, when I hear about things like "tracking" and "facial recognition", I fear there may be some truth behind it.

2018-07-03 13:16:59 UTC  

Governments are going to use tech to oppress and control. It's what governments do.

2018-07-03 13:17:17 UTC  

Governments gotta government...

2018-07-03 13:17:30 UTC  

Government's natural direction is to grow state power. Freedom limits growth, therefore freedom must be limited.

2018-07-03 13:17:32 UTC  

basicly looking through vast quantitys of convicted criminal photos and comparing them with cvt footage that corrisponds with reported crimes and then compare other ctv with other reported crimes

2018-07-03 13:17:45 UTC  

like i asked earlier, at what point is catching a murder no longer important?

2018-07-03 13:17:54 UTC  

when the murderer is you?

2018-07-03 13:18:09 UTC  

no, but if they have the tools to catch him, they have to tools to find you

2018-07-03 13:18:16 UTC  

@Grenade123 I suppose, in the eyes of the government, it would depend on who the victim is.

2018-07-03 13:18:25 UTC  

i'm not asking about the government

2018-07-03 13:18:30 UTC  

i'm asking about YOU

2018-07-03 13:18:41 UTC  

They managed to solve crimes before mass surveillance...

2018-07-03 13:18:52 UTC  

mass surveillance just makes it industrial.

2018-07-03 13:18:54 UTC  

at what point is the ability to catch a murder not worth it for your own personal privacy

2018-07-03 13:19:34 UTC  

If it's better for 100 guilty people to go free less 1 innocent go to jail... Surely the same should apply to privacy?

2018-07-03 13:19:34 UTC  

@LOLTRON more cameras, means more chances to catch a murder right as it happens, means less likely for there to be mass murders.

2018-07-03 13:19:39 UTC  

in theory, anyway

2018-07-03 13:19:55 UTC  

I would say catching a murderer is important, but we were catching killers before mass Internet surveillance and if you can show me data PROVING this rate of arrest has been improved for the better, I'll believe it. Still, even then I'd have to weigh it against the validity of sacrificing freedoms of everyone to catch about 1% of criminals, which I generally would not do.

2018-07-03 13:19:55 UTC  

^ the evidence suggests that isnt the case

2018-07-03 13:20:05 UTC  

most murders are crimes of passion, not premeditated.

2018-07-03 13:20:15 UTC  

mass murders

2018-07-03 13:20:16 UTC  


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2018-07-03 13:20:27 UTC  

Mass Murders are statistically 0

2018-07-03 13:20:29 UTC  

mass murderers

2018-07-03 13:20:31 UTC  

True; mass murders are generally premeditated...

2018-07-03 13:20:34 UTC  

not mass murders

2018-07-03 13:20:36 UTC  


2018-07-03 13:20:42 UTC  

but usually, they want noteriety.. they are looking for the fame..

2018-07-03 13:20:45 UTC  


2018-07-03 13:20:49 UTC  


2018-07-03 13:20:57 UTC  

several murders committed by the same person over a long period of time

2018-07-03 13:21:02 UTC  

Mass shootings/murders make up a fraction of homicides per year.

2018-07-03 13:21:08 UTC  

Serial murder?

2018-07-03 13:21:13 UTC  

even rarer than mass murder

2018-07-03 13:21:25 UTC  

yet what are people more afraid of?

2018-07-03 13:21:32 UTC  

Media hyperbole.

2018-07-03 13:21:40 UTC  


2018-07-03 13:22:08 UTC  

media hyperbole? please, these types of fear existed before media companies

2018-07-03 13:22:14 UTC  

The MSM MAKES these things scary. They are scary, but the odds of being the victim of a mass homicide event in the US is slimmer than being in a plane crash or getting hit by a train.

2018-07-03 13:22:26 UTC  

the boogieman has been scaring people since the start of humanity