Yep.. Thats my point

The tech can so easily be used nefariously

usually they do work with ctv

I'm a 100% Free Market Capitalist, therefore I support the average working guy, the small business owner, the freelance Web designer... NOT Google, Wall Street, or the Beltway. So, when I hear about things like "tracking" and "facial recognition", I fear there may be some truth behind it.

Governments are going to use tech to oppress and control. It's what governments do.

Governments gotta government...

Government's natural direction is to grow state power. Freedom limits growth, therefore freedom must be limited.

basicly looking through vast quantitys of convicted criminal photos and comparing them with cvt footage that corrisponds with reported crimes and then compare other ctv with other reported crimes

like i asked earlier, at what point is catching a murder no longer important?

when the murderer is you?

no, but if they have the tools to catch him, they have to tools to find you

@Grenade123 I suppose, in the eyes of the government, it would depend on who the victim is.

i'm not asking about the government

i'm asking about YOU

They managed to solve crimes before mass surveillance...

mass surveillance just makes it industrial.

at what point is the ability to catch a murder not worth it for your own personal privacy

If it's better for 100 guilty people to go free less 1 innocent go to jail... Surely the same should apply to privacy?

@LOLTRON more cameras, means more chances to catch a murder right as it happens, means less likely for there to be mass murders.

in theory, anyway

I would say catching a murderer is important, but we were catching killers before mass Internet surveillance and if you can show me data PROVING this rate of arrest has been improved for the better, I'll believe it. Still, even then I'd have to weigh it against the validity of sacrificing freedoms of everyone to catch about 1% of criminals, which I generally would not do.

^ the evidence suggests that isnt the case

most murders are crimes of passion, not premeditated.

mass murders

True

correction

Mass Murders are statistically 0

mass murderers

True; mass murders are generally premeditated...

not mass murders

sorry

but usually, they want noteriety.. they are looking for the fame..

(infamy)

True

several murders committed by the same person over a long period of time

Mass shootings/murders make up a fraction of homicides per year.

Serial murder?

even rarer than mass murder

yet what are people more afraid of?

Media hyperbole.

nazi's