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2018-07-03 17:47:07 UTC  

i'm pretty sure this article actually supported a meritocracy

2018-07-03 17:47:14 UTC  

"To accomplish that, companies need not explicitly favor a particular race or gender when hiring. Sometimes simple adjustments in the selection process can increase diversity. In one study led by the behavioral economist Iris Bohnet, of Harvard Kennedy School, students were assigned the role of an employer asked to select an employee who would do well on a future math or verbal task. Even though gender was not predictive of performance, “employers” evaluating individual candidates were likely to be swayed by stereotypes, exhibiting a preference for women on verbal tasks and men on math tasks. But when they assessed two candidates side by side, gender suddenly became irrelevant. Evaluators instead focused on past performance—an actual indicator of future success."

2018-07-03 17:57:45 UTC  

that snipped would imply that diversity is actually irrelevant, and as its put itself, from only 1 study

2018-07-03 17:58:13 UTC  

exactly

2018-07-03 17:58:36 UTC  

hence supporting meritocracy

2018-07-03 17:58:36 UTC  

so that would disprove the claim that diversity is beneficial, which is the headline

2018-07-03 17:58:56 UTC  

well, in an earlier part in that article it also "assumed" all skills

2018-07-03 17:59:10 UTC  

are equal

2018-07-03 17:59:31 UTC  

its trying to spin things

2018-07-03 18:00:05 UTC  

saying "look, when you are actually basing things on merit, you will get a diverse staff"

2018-07-03 18:00:42 UTC  

so then its not diversity that is beneficial, but meritocracy

2018-07-03 18:01:10 UTC  

but you see, you are looking for a cause, not an effect. logic doesn't apply here, only bias

2018-07-03 18:01:40 UTC  

nah im looking on what the article claims, and if it supports it, which it doesnt, it contradicts itself

2018-07-03 18:01:46 UTC  

(ironic, given that the article states people get angry when confronted with their own bias... maybe explains the anger of the left?)

2018-07-03 18:01:54 UTC  

oh, it contradicts itself

2018-07-03 18:01:59 UTC  

its leftist in nature

2018-07-03 18:02:04 UTC  

by default it would

2018-07-03 18:02:51 UTC  

they also tried to us Samantha Bee as an example and they were like "oh wow, look, after our selection process which, to us, was not bias, we ended up with 50-50 male-female applicant rate for the second round"

2018-07-03 18:03:02 UTC  

i find this highly suspect

2018-07-03 18:03:56 UTC  

if it's evenly 50-50 you screwed up

2018-07-03 18:09:07 UTC  

in other news: germany is going to catch illegal immigrants within 20 miles from the border and send them to the eu country they came from (first applied for asylum), austria is probably going to do the same because that is where the immigrants will get sent. I really don't think you will see any more boats being allowed to enter italian ports...

2018-07-03 18:10:32 UTC  

"This is not to say, of course, that it’s impossible to improve diversity in an established company. Standardized processes, such as blinding résumés during hiring and using objective metrics during performance reviews (as long as they’re constantly refined through iterative development), can have a big impact in organizations looking to ameliorate bias. But when the teams developing and refining those processes are themselves unrepresentative of the broader universe of candidates, they must take special care to ensure that they aren’t institutionalizing their individual biases."

while i would suspect what a leftists would find as "objective metrics", this once again sounds like a support of meritocracy. Look at what they do and how well they do at it, not who they are.

2018-07-03 18:10:53 UTC  

(although ability to work with the team is kinda a biggy)

2018-07-03 18:12:40 UTC  

"We’ve seen similar results in blind evaluations of prospective hires. Most of us have heard that auditioning musicians behind screens has dramatically increased the percentage of women who make the cut for symphony orchestras. Here’s an example from another industry: When the political satire show Full Frontal with Samantha Bee was gearing up to hire writers, then-showrunner Jo Miller combined other shows’ evaluation processes, making minor tweaks consistent with her goals. In a first-round call for script submissions, detailed formatting instructions were included so that superficial indicators of experience would not overshadow talent, taste, and potential. Those scripts were evaluated blindly, and an unusually large number of applicants made it to a second round, in which previous work and other factors, including gender and ethnicity, were considered. The result was a strikingly diverse team for late-night comedy: 50% women and 30% people of color."

2018-07-03 18:12:59 UTC  

the blind resumes were tested and lead to fewer women being called in for interviews.

2018-07-03 18:14:44 UTC  

germany is becoming nationalist again?

2018-07-03 18:14:47 UTC  

oh this will end well

2018-07-03 18:14:48 UTC  

lmao

2018-07-03 18:15:11 UTC  

I wounder if the main american news outlets know Canada has chain fenced detention areas for illegal immigrants too 😮 they are just not as big and part of the year really freekin cold.

2018-07-03 18:19:46 UTC  

if we elect an austrian as chancellor - run 😄

2018-07-03 18:20:43 UTC  

oh, i forgot... there might be detention camps on the german border...

2018-07-03 18:20:45 UTC  

i mean, they are pretty socialist right now, aren't they?

2018-07-03 18:20:55 UTC  

who?

2018-07-03 18:20:58 UTC  

germany

2018-07-03 18:21:15 UTC  

depends on what you mean

2018-07-03 18:21:52 UTC  

there are social services and things like that... but no germany is not a socialist country

2018-07-03 18:22:07 UTC  

okay, so maybe things are okay

2018-07-03 18:22:42 UTC  

little nationalism didn't hurt too much.... unless they want socialism.

2018-07-03 18:25:11 UTC  

i'm not a fan of nationalism even though there are policies i support that would fall under that

2018-07-03 18:27:25 UTC  

@Timcast are americans allowed in venezuala? its probably an incredibly dangerous place to go but that place has certainly been somewhere that has had a constant story to tell for the last 3 years. maybe one of the neighbering countrys where people are migrating out of might have more reliable sources though as i assume if you were even allowed in venesuala the state would give you the NK treatment of "heres all the things and people we prepared so you know our country is doing fine"

2018-07-03 18:27:48 UTC  

I would avoid at all costs