Or the idea that a private healt issue is being enforced by the govt. Like obamacare

I mean, Im thinking the alternative would be paying out money to deal with outbreaks of polio or smallpox

Which would be alot more than 3.7 billion.

Its a tough question, I dont like abortion, but every baby that isnt aborted will be another that will be sucking up welfare, and that would cost taxpayers more than the abortion itself.

no, no, of course not. profits are necessary as an economic output indicator and price calculations.... also profits are like the alternator for an engine and battery.... it provides feedback of results and how to interpret and manage/allocate resources most efficiently

its just a government intervention thing

profits are good if acquired voluntarily w/o special statist privileges and legal monoplies set up by the govt, but that is just not the case as the vaccine industry stands in the US currently

Also, I need to take another break. Might be back, might not, but I got your point.

I am still undecided at best.

you need profits to know if youre operating at losses or not, etc

well all im saying is no forced vaccinations in the name of pro-consumer-choice .... pro-informed-consent

All I'll say is this: Vaccines are one of the most important inventions in human history for saving human life. But I don't like the idea of someone forcing me to put something in my body. However vaccines rely on herd-immunity, and by not taking them you are endangering everyone else. Also corporations can often be untrustworthy.

Ultimately, it is how much trust individuals are willing to put into such corporations that the stuff they produce is beneficial to them

@Schedrevka i agree with most of that except about the herd-immunity. if you are vaccinated (and assuming it works as intended by actually immunizing your [which isnt necessarily the case might i add]).... but assuming you are actually immunized ... why would you be concerned about others around you not having it too? logically you should not be endangered if you were already actually immunized

if you were truely immunized, that would not depend on others being immunized too

Herd immunity is to protect those without immunity

As it prevents the spreading of diseases if more people are immune to it

We no longer get polio vaccines

Because we wiped it out in the US

That's the result of widespread vaccination

No doubt there is benefits in employing widespread vaccination, but I think the argument is that whether the vaccination is being forced upon the individuals

but people have already been documented to SPREAD the very diseases that theyre inoculated with..... very counter intuitive! counter productive

sad!

i would argue that many of THEM [heavily vaccinated people] are putting others at risk as well because they could become new carriers for vectors of contageous disease

they are. vaccines are the ultimate miracle cure with little to no side effects

no, i disagree w/ that.... already been thru all that, havent we?

Where's the link for the documented spreading? Didn't know about it before

theres been tons of news cases ive seen

ppl getting a flue shot .... then getting the flu ... then spreading it to others

little to no side effects? have you ever read the manufacturer insert label/side effect disclaimer of vaccines?

Hmm, I think for flu it is very hard to vaccinate simply because there are various strains of it

ya, and the strains are always older, out-dated, no longer circulating strains in the current flu season.. so theyre just adding to and introducing all sorts of unnecessary complications

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cuz the strains change from season to season..... and it takes a LONG TIME to develop vaccines ..... by that time its too late before the strains start to change again

Most vaccine for flu is produced based on scientist prediction in which strain would be the main culprit that year

and theyre terrible at predicting those sorts of things... there will always be mistakes

Given that it's generally decreasing in effectiveness from year to year...

But the reason why herd immunity doesn't work in this case is because of the rapid evolution of the flu strains, unlike other sorts of diseases

It admittedly is hard to take assurances that people need a flu shot as anything more than a PR campaign...

not to mention all the "super bugs" that are evolving thats to becoming more and more tolerant to anti-biotics after all these years

THAT'S just from an over-reliance on known antibiotics.