@Dr.Wol "but thats not real ancap"

no joke, been told that

was in an ancap server once

quit once i had debunked enough stuff and they started just ignoring the results of the argument and then going to a new person and try to bring it up again

i asked them "why not go to Somalia? Surely it is easier to start your dream there than make the US more ancap?"

😄

Somalia, Ancap paradise

no government, as opposed to a weak one in Mexico

and they would then start lining up similar excuses leftists do as to why they don't move to venezuela

It would be funny to actually witness an ancap circlejerk i think

"Ugh, damn government, we would be so good by now"
"Yeah"
"We wud be Kaangzz"
"Yeah, fuck the government and the workers"
"Yeah! we would make the world so great"

I can see if my friend who is still in it can give you a link

idk if they still argue as much since i left

they didn't take kindly to me twisting their own logic around on them

making them realize that no, god doesn't actually dictate who's land is who's

actually managed to get one to be a little less an-cap when i made him realize that what is his property is basically what i agree is his property.

otherwise its just whatever you currently possess at the time/can defend

i.e., if you leave your house, its no longer YOUR house unless i agree that it is your house

unless you leave someone to enforce your claim to the house

and even if you don't leave your house, if i don't agree, i can come take it

try to atleast

but i get your point

well if you leave someone to enforce your claim, its technically THEIR house unless they agree to give it back once you return....or you oust them.

well, yes, technically

boy did that Russel some jimmies, because most of them agreed the foundation of most forms of government came out of necessity to set private property rules

so having to admit that you need to cooperate with your neighbors to define what is private property, lead way to having some kind of local government.

yeah, thats a thing ancaps conveniently forget,
Government is there to enforce peoples claim to their property

and what happens when when a bunch of local governments group up? you get a larger government

I mentioned this yesterdy in the debate channel when arguing with poptart about ancaps

Ancaps pretty much just want their own smaller government where they think they will be king

and so on, and so on, until i disproved their idea that government has no rightful claim to do what it is doing.

but those get swept away by a bigger collective

and then they tuned out, forgot what we just talked about, and said to new people "the government is not legitimate"

In an Ancap world,

Negan is king

i also argued that what they wanted was a return to tribalism.

which they tried to tell me no

the warlord with the biggest collective following him, will just crush any Ancap group, take their stuff, expand and conquer more
Until you have an Empire under their new Emperor (the warlord)

but couldn't explain how

yep

"but community defense!" they cried

which, to an extent, and armed population is much harder to conquer

See how community defense works when the US military tramples through your front door

In an ancap world theres no "country" so its just small communities

but you still need a military to answer another military