police departments is just *corporations* at the end of the day. time to start holding them by the same standards/expectations/liabilities that we expect of friendly neighborhood businesses and other companies that we CHOOSE to do businesses with in the true name of pro-consumer-choice

You haven't explained how a security firm would operate differently.

need a more effective mechanism to shut down abusive police departments, and yes, i have already... not goign to repeat myself over and over

im leaving at this now, where we have found common ground, etc .... logging out now. good night

That's the 3rd time you said you are going to go off

i know... smh 😔

someones getting off i hear? 😉

https://www.dailywire.com/news/32742/hugs-not-bullets-mexicos-new-president-reveals-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

"'HUGS, NOT BULLETS': Mexico's New President Reveals Plan To Stop Drug Cartels"

Mexico is showing how id look if Bernie would have won.....

funny tho, Mexico is basically ancap dream made manifest 😉 and its a hellhole

and now showing the fruits i promised it would,

Its switching socialist hugbox

Pretty much, a nation with a govt. Justice has to be paid for. Private security (the cartels) that only protect payers.

A govt that is more bark than bite.

@Dr.Wol "but thats not real ancap"

no joke, been told that

was in an ancap server once

quit once i had debunked enough stuff and they started just ignoring the results of the argument and then going to a new person and try to bring it up again

i asked them "why not go to Somalia? Surely it is easier to start your dream there than make the US more ancap?"

😄

Somalia, Ancap paradise

no government, as opposed to a weak one in Mexico

and they would then start lining up similar excuses leftists do as to why they don't move to venezuela

It would be funny to actually witness an ancap circlejerk i think

"Ugh, damn government, we would be so good by now"
"Yeah"
"We wud be Kaangzz"
"Yeah, fuck the government and the workers"
"Yeah! we would make the world so great"

I can see if my friend who is still in it can give you a link

idk if they still argue as much since i left

they didn't take kindly to me twisting their own logic around on them

making them realize that no, god doesn't actually dictate who's land is who's

actually managed to get one to be a little less an-cap when i made him realize that what is his property is basically what i agree is his property.

otherwise its just whatever you currently possess at the time/can defend

i.e., if you leave your house, its no longer YOUR house unless i agree that it is your house

unless you leave someone to enforce your claim to the house

and even if you don't leave your house, if i don't agree, i can come take it

try to atleast

but i get your point

well if you leave someone to enforce your claim, its technically THEIR house unless they agree to give it back once you return....or you oust them.

well, yes, technically

boy did that Russel some jimmies, because most of them agreed the foundation of most forms of government came out of necessity to set private property rules

so having to admit that you need to cooperate with your neighbors to define what is private property, lead way to having some kind of local government.

yeah, thats a thing ancaps conveniently forget,
Government is there to enforce peoples claim to their property

and what happens when when a bunch of local governments group up? you get a larger government