Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-07-09 14:24:29 UTC  

thats an assinine way to look at things but if thats the way you think then thats your perspective

2018-07-09 14:24:51 UTC  

from my perspective sargon will never be legitamently in politics until he runs for a position in governemnt

2018-07-09 14:25:07 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend we could always be like trump and simply ask "why can't be just invade the UK"

2018-07-09 14:25:34 UTC  

if things dont get any better it might become an option

2018-07-09 14:26:08 UTC  

im starting to think basicly its decided that labour will be the next governemnt in briton by no contest

2018-07-09 14:26:15 UTC  

so the fact he's getting more people interested in politics and due to him more people are joining the UKIP party etc

Thus promoting a political faction, is not him being in politics?

And me thinking it is, is assinine?

2018-07-09 14:27:05 UTC  

its him being an activist but not being a politician

2018-07-09 14:27:21 UTC  

being into politics != being a politician

2018-07-09 14:27:22 UTC  

You can be both

2018-07-09 14:27:50 UTC  

you can be both, but from my perspective your not in politics until your in politics

2018-07-09 14:28:04 UTC  

well i can't argue with that 😛

2018-07-09 14:28:41 UTC  

i think were actually having an issue where i have 2 definitions of politics

2018-07-09 14:28:52 UTC  

so i think i should appoligize

2018-07-09 14:28:58 UTC  

I think once you hold some influence in changing people's mind in politics, you are pretty much political

2018-07-09 14:29:25 UTC  

when im talking about sargon being in politics i mean big P Politics rather than small p politics

2018-07-09 14:29:36 UTC  

same, the moment you partake, you influence, hence you are taking part in politics
Thus you are being political

2018-07-09 14:30:02 UTC  

i think im being semantic

2018-07-09 14:30:18 UTC  

I think I get what you mean

2018-07-09 14:30:42 UTC  

But we don't know the reason for them in joining UKIP

2018-07-09 14:31:00 UTC  

but theres a notion of being IN politics while also theres a notion of being political outside of politics, sargon has actually been political practicly ever since he made a youtube

2018-07-09 14:31:43 UTC  

we are arguing over semantics i think

You just don't consider Sargon to be active in the realm of real life politics

2018-07-09 14:31:43 UTC  

And even though they might not get a position in the government and stuff, he could still be a grassroot for the party

2018-07-09 14:32:19 UTC  

he's not running for office etc, and trying to change the normie world physically

2018-07-09 14:33:19 UTC  

hes been a pundit for his own political ideology ever since gamer gate however in more recent times hes flirted with closer with the actual political system of his country though never actually commited to it. even him joining ukip wasent really a big deal, you have to ask yourself, how many people do you watch on youtube who are registered voters? because thats really all he became no more no less

2018-07-09 14:34:11 UTC  

true, in that regard he isn't partaking in politics

2018-07-09 14:36:19 UTC  

he pundit for brexit, pundit for theresa may now hes punditing for ukip with the added context hes a registered voter, hes not simply saying what he is doing now but also saying what he thinks other people should do but at the same time hes still not a foci of the responcibility of governence of the people yet to any degree

2018-07-09 14:37:05 UTC  

true, but he's famous so his activities do inspire people to take action

2018-07-09 14:37:37 UTC  

sure but it would be even more inspiring if he was a leader more than a cheer leader

2018-07-09 14:38:29 UTC  

well, with his occasional stage shows, and speeches he does a bit of that.

But the rest of the time, yes he's waiving his kekistani pompoms at western values

2018-07-09 14:38:31 UTC  

and thats sort of my arguement that hes very good at avoiding that commitment

2018-07-09 14:38:37 UTC  

yes

2018-07-09 14:38:43 UTC  

cuz he doesn't want to do them 😄

2018-07-09 14:40:06 UTC  

ofcourse, he wants other people to do it for him but he creates an illusion to a lot of people that what he does is very important and very influincing, but in truth no ones lives are directly effected by his ability to make critical choices

2018-07-09 14:41:29 UTC  

When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all 😉

2018-07-09 14:42:04 UTC  

I don't think sargon is that big of a name to influence change on a large scale

2018-07-09 14:42:24 UTC  

back to the whole uk thing, if anyone is interested, i think as it is right now its very important to look at what labour does in the future because i dont really have any idea how the torys could posibly hold themselves together without support

2018-07-09 14:42:49 UTC  

labour is conservatives right?

2018-07-09 14:43:55 UTC  

they might all be leftists compared to the US

2018-07-09 14:44:24 UTC  

torys are conseritives

2018-07-09 14:44:40 UTC  

torys vs labour is like democrats vs progressives here in the states

2018-07-09 14:44:55 UTC  

neolibs vs socialists