Message from @Bookworm

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2018-10-25 18:08:13 UTC  

If we're talking about a 100% meritocratic system it has to be accurate, no?

2018-10-25 18:09:03 UTC  

no, it needs to be focused around trying to measure skill correctly

2018-10-25 18:09:55 UTC  

nothing is static in our universe. Things are always changing.

2018-10-25 18:10:10 UTC  

what is perfect for measuring something now, might not be perfect tomorrow.

2018-10-25 18:10:39 UTC  

the system is "perfect" if it can recognize when it has stopped work and self-corrects.

2018-10-25 18:10:49 UTC  

much like science

2018-10-25 18:12:17 UTC  

like bacteria randomly mutating to overcome antibiotics

2018-10-25 18:13:38 UTC  

nothing is 100%, but you can aim for 100%. but it will always be asymptotic

2018-10-25 18:15:04 UTC  

Skill is not the only factor employers look for, and for good reason. Further there's not always room for correction

2018-10-25 18:18:12 UTC  

The closer that AI brings us to perfectly meritocratic hiring, the less employers seem to want it.

2018-10-25 18:19:04 UTC  

Most utopian design looks better from a distance

2018-10-25 18:20:28 UTC  

I'm talking about actual cases. Tim has talked about actual cases like Amazon.

2018-10-25 18:20:52 UTC  

Right, that's what I mean though

2018-10-25 18:21:34 UTC  

As we achieve the means to put some of these plans into action they look less and less inviting

2018-10-25 18:21:47 UTC  

It failed because Amazon wants ideoogical hiring, not objectively meritocratic hiring.

2018-10-25 18:21:55 UTC  

There's that too yeah

2018-10-25 18:24:01 UTC  

And tbh they're 100% free to do that, or should be in any case

2018-10-25 18:24:14 UTC  

Just like I'm free to never touch prime or aws again

2018-10-25 18:24:53 UTC  

If Amazon is free to hire ideologically, businesses should be free to conduct their businesses ideologically.

2018-10-25 18:25:04 UTC  

I think so, too.

2018-10-25 18:25:08 UTC  

But my understanding is we have government legislation to stop exactly that.

2018-10-25 18:26:45 UTC  

That legislation promotes ideological hiring of non-whites and females.

2018-10-25 18:27:27 UTC  

There's no getting around the anti-meritocratic aspect of legislation that stops the hiring of white males.

2018-10-25 18:27:32 UTC  

And demands that the business provides universal service for some groups of people.

2018-10-25 18:28:37 UTC  

Actually depending on your state and your business you can totally deny service to whoever you want

2018-10-25 18:29:10 UTC  

I suppose states can let you ignore federal laws.

2018-10-25 18:29:17 UTC  

But I'm not sure they'd let you ignore the civil rights act.

2018-10-25 18:29:24 UTC  

There was also the gay cakes case

2018-10-25 18:29:29 UTC  

I agree with allowing a business to deny service on its own terms unless there's an antitrust issue.

2018-10-25 18:30:25 UTC  

Baking seems to be a pretty competitive industry so I couldn't care less if a baker wants to turn down gay cake business.

2018-10-25 20:17:57 UTC  

NYC news conference re: bomb threat <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdyhBb1Wj3w> (starts at ~45 min mark)

2018-10-25 20:30:49 UTC  

Officials declined to answer whether or not the devices were genuine explosives or meant for intimidation only.

2018-10-25 20:50:02 UTC  

This is my shocked face.

2018-10-25 21:04:42 UTC  

they probably just did keyword searches

2018-10-25 22:12:27 UTC  

styx is close i think. maybe not spot on but close/

2018-10-25 22:12:55 UTC  

it really wouldn't be a surprise if it was the left who started the whole bomb scare

2018-10-25 22:13:26 UTC  

I didn't even listen to this video until now, and I knew exactly what he was going to say.