Message from @DrYuriMom
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@Malt_Hitman , what get brought up? Why should live and who should die?
money
money deicides that
The idea that people with heritable illnesses cost more money to keep healthy.
Oh, they do
But no, we don't judge
Most hospitals are non-profit and exist to serve everyone
I won't work for a for-profit. My profession is my vocation.
That said, insurance companies tinker with it. But ultimately that's a political debate. We're having it right now. It's called pre-existing conditions.
@DrYuriMom so, how accurate is this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8
@Grenade123 , as is often the case, this is a very selective presentation. Still watching.
i mean, it is a show, so of course
In can tell you that non-profit hospitals are suffering
are non-profit anything ever not suffering?
Medicaid pays about 75% of the cost (not charges) it takes to treat patients
Medicare pays about 95%
Commercial insurance about 120% but that has to offset the other moneylosers
My particular health system made a 0.7% margin two years ago
@Jasse, you lost me at the "American College of Pediatricians". An organization of about 500 members compared to the American Academy of Pediatrics with about 64,000 members
Have not watched those vids, but here's my stance on trans:
I don't recall the exact numbers, but there is an absurd amount of suicide attempts made by trans people above the national average. Even the most passive google search lists the rates on the LOW end as 35%, and the high end marks some studies as as high as 78%.
And while I fully accept that causation does not equal correlation, I will 100% stand behind the fact that any condition that is this closely linked with suicide attempts, is absolutely mental health problem, and must be treated as such.
We're not talking popularity, we're talking professional associations and their collective wisdom
@Jasse that fallacy equality applies to you
How so? @Grenade123
"the fact that many people do something as an attempted form of validation"
many people =/= majority
The ACP pretty much only addresses issues related to GLBT and abortion. The APP addresses everything pediatrics, which makes sense since they are the professional home of just about every pediatrician out there.
its only a fallacy if there is nothing else supporting it, given that you have not given them time to support it, its not a fallacy yet.
if you want to take it as a fallacy, then it applies to you at this point
Cutting off your dick, and cutting hole between your legs doesnt change your sex.
Any more than chaning logos in car changes car manufacuer.
Bandwagon fallacy does not apply when talking about a legitimate and accepted organization of professionals who have a reasonable understanding and take on the matter.
That being said, if you disagree with the stated professionals, you might call such a statement an https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
However, do read the caveats as described on the site.
"nor is it reasonable to disregard the claims of experts who have a demonstrated depth of knowledge unless one has a similar level of understanding and/or access to empirical evidence."
@Jasse, I think it speaks to the intensity with which such people experience whatever they are experiencing
@JustTom i was wondering why he went to bandwagon and not authority
*shrugs* No idea, but I corrected it.
If someone spends $100,000 of their own money and perseveres through humiliation and hardship, can't you give them some credit for the validity of their experience?
Is buying into Star citizen a mental illness
wait, bad example
lol
it might be