Funnily enough trans people at least the vocal ones

Consider themselves a separate class.

because jewish plot...somehow

maybe the chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay

That movement litterally casrates children.

Honestly, pragmatically they do "harm" the nation.

@Bookworm, what reality is being denied?

So we depend on society to make up for it.

@DrYuriMom their body. And their sex.

Carot

@Jasse, no one is castrating children. At least not in the US. Surgery is not an option until the age of consent.

If a guy is gonna permanently remove themselves from the potential gene pool. Someone else can be counted on to take the place.

I think trans is a mental illness, but bluntly ignoring it or discrediting it is not the solution to it. For those who are fully invested into it, I can support calling them by their selected gender. For those NPCs who are shovelling all this no-gender or multi-gender zhi ziggy bobado, fuck off.

Scientifically speaking, transgender individuals who've reasonably gone through the process to declare themselves and show they actually stand by their beliefs have had proper scientific studies done and a large variety of their physical attributes, especially brain chemistry, often support that they are genuinely trying to be more aligned with the opposite sex of their genes.

So while I still believe this is a disorder and it needs to be treated, I will respect them.

The same way I would respect someone with PTSD.

@GingaBomber , or there's sperm or egg feezing

Actually, while that hasnt happened yet, we have parents "encouraging" kids to come out

@DrYuriMom puberty blokers castrate children.

The entire thing behind the "deadnaming" B.S. for one. People claiming that their given name by their parents after birth should be made inaccessable is most bizzare.

No, ignoring mental illness is almost never a good idea.

Recognition and treatment is preferred.

And also cases of trans activists advocating for kids to undergo sex change surgery or using pills

@Jasse, puberty blockers are temporary. Just stop the drugs and BOOM, puberty happens

@Jasse you mean sterilize

@JustTom , I respect your perspective, sir. thank you.

Honestly to them, regardless of the term, you mean making their reproductive parts useless

Castration is literally chopping the balls off

don't really think its a good idea to giving much of anything to kids unless absolutely required to keep them from suffering major harm, but thats just me,

@Aktriaz no. Castrate.

and i'm one of those crazies who thinks we use too many meds on everyone

Eh just stick with the best word. Mutiliate.

It covers all the bases.

@DrYuriMom No, that's not how it works. I know this very clearly, one of my aunts decided to give her two sons those things, and... one of them is so fucked up in the head it's insane, and the other, while being a stable member of society in some ways, has very clearly missed puberty and never going to get it.

Castrate only applies to boys/

@Aktriaz it can be done cemically. Or with drugs. Like in this case

Sterialize does not imply surgery

Learn English boyo

I am vociferous against anything permanent being done with kids under 16yo, and no surgery until age of consent.

Surgery induced sterialization is neutering or "snipping"

"kid can't sit stock still in school for 8 hours straight? HE MUST HAVE ADD!"
"Um... maybe you just let him run around for 10 minutes in the middle of the day instead of throwing him on pills that may or may not lead to an addictive habit"
"WHAT ARE YOU, SOME KIND OF ANTI VACCER!"
"....what"

I'm against puberty blockers as well for reasons mentioned above. They can be hugely damaging in their own way.

But delaying puberty to permit the kid to make their own decision as they get older? Why not? Isn't that liberty?

Its no different from russian choir boys getting castrated to keep their voices high