Message from @Vannevariable

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2018-12-29 01:25:11 UTC  

If i owned a garden snake, and you try to use a black mamba as evidence as why i shouldn't have *my* snake, i also wouldn't understand your concern.

2018-12-29 01:27:17 UTC  

The problem there is someone just cries SNAKE and doesn't listen to any further details.

2018-12-29 01:27:54 UTC  

Just like people cry MERCURY.

2018-12-29 01:28:46 UTC  

my quip about concern was unhelpful

2018-12-29 01:29:13 UTC  

Its ok, i'm frequently unhelpful.

2018-12-29 01:31:01 UTC  

```An elected official in my state said "mansplaining"...```
Condolences for living there...

2018-12-29 03:09:46 UTC  
2018-12-29 03:09:58 UTC  

Tim cover people refusing service and assaulting trump supporters

2018-12-29 04:13:48 UTC  
2018-12-29 04:14:38 UTC  

illegal immigrant murdered officer who was a legal immigrant
chief blames sanctuary state laws

2018-12-29 04:26:15 UTC  

@grant because its true. An illegal immigrant hit my uncle paralyzed and basically ruined his entire life he can barely walk or talk. Hes fucked. Guy got off on a DUI driving a 16 wheeler for 5k bail and left california

2018-12-29 04:26:31 UTC  

Sanctuary laws afford more rights to non citizens than citizens get

2018-12-29 04:29:54 UTC  

oh i agree. L.A. county sheriff chief said same thing.

2018-12-29 05:04:23 UTC  

Sometimes i feel like the only solution is a return to old west style law.
Someone wrongs you, you take the law into your own hands.

2018-12-29 05:35:42 UTC  

The Sanctuary Laws will have to be judged by SCOTUS

2018-12-29 05:36:50 UTC  

And I hope that the ones enforcing the Sanctuary laws will be held responsible. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that....

2018-12-29 05:46:55 UTC  

They can abolish sanctuary laws but gl holding local office accountable. You can force resignation for them signing in unconstitutional laws but you cant get them jailed I dont think. Not unless you prove it was malicious

2018-12-29 06:29:09 UTC  

Cortez is also either the most idiotic public figure I know of (beating out Macron and Trump, which is somewhat impressive) or an actually malicious genius in the same vein as trump, and using this bad press to keep her in the limelight

2018-12-29 06:29:45 UTC  

honestly I was born in Cali, and watching it slide downhill... at this point, I'm waiting for an intervention

2018-12-29 07:39:38 UTC  

@Vannevariable Here's your Intervention

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/528477181748445184/DR-FhS3VwAEtoHJ.png

2018-12-29 07:55:12 UTC  

I hope it doesn't come to that. After all, I have a lot of family and friends down there.

2018-12-29 07:56:16 UTC  

By intervention I'm expecting vali to collapse it's own economy and need to be bailed out by the government, and that the government makes it sting.

2018-12-29 07:56:35 UTC  

Though even that has issues...

2018-12-29 08:20:32 UTC  

```honestly I was born in Cali, and watching it slide downhill... at this point, I'm waiting for an intervention```
You guys voted Crazy Maxine and Dement Nancy into office

2018-12-29 08:21:07 UTC  

So there really is little hope...

2018-12-29 09:05:54 UTC  

>we

2018-12-29 09:06:08 UTC  

>orange county voter turnout was 140% of the precinct @Stefan Payne

2018-12-29 09:06:13 UTC  

>we

2018-12-29 09:06:20 UTC  

Yeah we voted for that for sure

2018-12-29 09:06:24 UTC  

<:sadpeepo:520751858885591060>

2018-12-29 09:11:24 UTC  

Bro, I'm close to Orange County. Come touch butts with me.

2018-12-29 11:17:48 UTC  

I'm in WA, not cali

2018-12-29 11:18:00 UTC  

Moved away over 20 years ago

2018-12-29 13:19:28 UTC  

In some states the sanctuary laws were voted in by statewide referendum. It was on the Oregon ballot last month and won by a large margin.

2018-12-29 14:05:24 UTC  

Agree or disagree with the outcome, we had a war to settle wether or not a state could ignore federal law.
Trump needs to defund sanctuary States.

2018-12-29 14:11:39 UTC  

```"Without presuming to decide the purely legal question, on which it seems evident to me from Madison's and Hamilton's papers that the Fathers of the Constitution were not agreed, I saw in State Rights the only availing check upon the absolutism of the sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction but as the redemption of Democracy. The institutions of your Republic have not exercised on the old world the salutary and liberating influence which ought to have belonged to them, by reason of those defects and abuses of principle which the Confederate Constitution was expressly and wisely calculated to remedy. I believed that the example of that great Reform would have blessed all the races of mankind by establishing true freedom purged of the native dangers and disorders of Republics. Therefore I deemed that you were fighting the battles of our liberty, our progress, and our civilization; and I mourn for the stake which was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo."
Lord Acton, Letter (4 November 1866) to Robert E. Lee```

2018-12-29 14:22:34 UTC  

```"We must promote the idea of secession. Or more specifically, we must promote the idea of a world composed of tens of thousands of distinct districts, regions, and cantons, and hundred of thousands of independent free cities such as the present day oddities of Monaco, Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Hong Kong, and Singapore. Greatly increased opportunities for economically motivated migration would thus result, and the world would be one of small [classically] liberal governments economically integrated through free trade and an international commodity money such as gold."
-Hoppe.```

2018-12-29 14:29:49 UTC  

that would be better then what we moght get now

2018-12-29 14:35:45 UTC  

Yeah, as it is easier to get rid of your mayor than the President of said country.

2018-12-29 14:35:56 UTC  

at least in THeory

2018-12-29 14:41:31 UTC  

but it would be thriving economy