Message from @ShadowKhukuri

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2016-12-28 20:57:10 UTC  

it is. I just took a break from working on my orders, thought i would pop iin and see what was going on.

2016-12-28 21:02:30 UTC  

Cool.

2016-12-28 21:02:38 UTC  

Where in the world are you?

2016-12-28 21:26:17 UTC  

ah

2016-12-28 21:26:44 UTC  

SUP

2016-12-28 21:28:22 UTC  

I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWEDON TWITTER BY A HEBREW ROOTS CHRISTIAN THE END IS NIGH

2016-12-28 21:28:58 UTC  

We know the end is nigh...signs of the Bible are being fulfilled

2016-12-28 21:30:32 UTC  

Yes after Bible carefully laid out all groundwork for the signs to appear

2016-12-28 21:31:27 UTC  

quote:

2 Timothy 3:1-5New International Version (NIV)

3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

2016-12-28 21:33:06 UTC  

Question...if what you say is true @The Enlightened Shepherd, how is it that Bible Writers nearly 2000 years ago could have envisioned that their religious world would become the largely hedonistic world we have today?

As 2 Tim 3:4 says "lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God"

2016-12-28 21:33:30 UTC  

Or "unholy" verse 2

2016-12-28 21:33:52 UTC  

perhaps because history is/ cyclic and this has happened before @ShadowKhukuri ?

2016-12-28 21:34:01 UTC  

People back then reading that would have thought Apostle Paul crazy...

2016-12-28 21:34:19 UTC  

but he describes the social affairs of today accurately

2016-12-28 21:34:19 UTC  

1. Bible is not the first, but the last book to "predict" (copy-pase) apocalyptic last age

2016-12-28 21:34:32 UTC  

In a sense you are right @HeimatFreiheitTradition

2016-12-28 21:34:59 UTC  

2. Bible instructs people to be meek, weak, compassionate, passive and non-resistant, because this world is going to come to an end

2016-12-28 21:35:35 UTC  

@HeimatFreiheitTradition

Matthew 24:37-39New International Version (NIV)

37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man

2016-12-28 21:35:37 UTC  

3. And when the world naurally does near the end, since it's strongest kind gave up it's strenght as per instruction of Bible, it says "Hey, we told you so !"

2016-12-28 21:35:49 UTC  

People were like today just before the flood came

2016-12-28 21:36:12 UTC  

which points when Jesus returning soon...

2016-12-28 21:36:45 UTC  

Yes, thankfully, we know what the world looked like before flood

2016-12-28 21:37:17 UTC  

@The Enlightened Shepherd

1. True
2. Somewhat true
3. Not sure what you mean here

2016-12-28 21:37:52 UTC  

What is not clear

2016-12-28 21:37:59 UTC  

When people become meek, weak, compassionate and passive

2016-12-28 21:38:18 UTC  

Their civilization decays (Not the world, but only them ! Animals can live without us)

2016-12-28 21:39:15 UTC  

@The Enlightened Shepherd while that is generally true, the manner in which that civilization ends is not always the same.

2016-12-28 21:39:49 UTC  

I can instruct you to not resist the evil, and then miraculously predict that evil shall prevail

2016-12-28 21:41:30 UTC  

Also, to your second point @The Enlightened Shepherd , you make a premise that seems a bit off. The Bible does not suggest to its adherents to be weak, it actually points to a time in the Book of Revelation that The God of the Bible will deliver judgment...for example, Noah did not deliver judgment himself.

Nor did his wife, his sons or their wives. But when the Ark's door was closed and the rains fell, the rest of humanity who drowned (as well as animals not of the ark) died. At the hands of the creator

2016-12-28 21:41:48 UTC  

Revelation suggests that judgment in the future will be similar.

2016-12-28 21:42:20 UTC  

Previous bible passages suggest that this God does not delegate the most harshest of judgment

2016-12-28 21:42:27 UTC  

e.g. "Vengeance is mine"

2016-12-28 21:43:02 UTC  

So adherents arent weak as you say, they just reccognize that they do not always have authority to act in judgment

2016-12-28 21:43:22 UTC  

Yes, now please tell me how story of Noah and Revelation fit in because between them there are some 800 more pages of Bible

2016-12-28 21:43:27 UTC  

This is markedly different from Wahabist/Salafist muslims

2016-12-28 21:44:38 UTC  

Of all books of New Testament, Revelation has to be probably the dumbest, the least creative and least inspiring

2016-12-28 21:45:11 UTC  

Bunch of mashed up threats of old variety, namely grasshopers mosquitoes, famine, death and misery

2016-12-28 21:45:14 UTC  

It is quite simple.

There have been judgments against the enemies of God and his human followers where his human followers delivered judgment. (Joshua, David and others)

And then there are other judgments not delegated to them (Sodom and Gomorrrah, the flood, Armageddon)

2016-12-28 21:45:36 UTC  

Yes, judgements of Jewish god Yahweh against other people because they, well, existed

2016-12-28 21:45:51 UTC  

But you need to understand the audience it was targeting, it was written by a Jew primarily for Jews