Message from @caykoh
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Cross posting from debate....
Tims getting bludgeoned in the comments on his video for the GoFundMe wall campaign, mostly for citing Buzzfeed. All I've read are uncompelling stances against buzzfeed as whole, or stating the alternative non-profit intriduction doesn't qualify as grounds for modifying the original campaign terms. No one seems to want to engage any other substantive details.
thats because it's Buzzfeed
i.e. the terms state that a goal of $1bn has to be met to secure all donors contributions be petitioned for actual border efforts. It's still only at $20mn, way short of any campaign goal that would distribute any portion anywhere else other than the GoFundMe holding position
All of the instances addressed in the buzzfeed article are sound and valid in and ofthemselves, though...,
https://youtu.be/J_TQl9IwRrU It just wonโt fucking stop.
Gay Purge in Chechnya
when shit
Can Tim, on any topic, produce coverage along with his arguement that captures the fact pattern in its required scope and scale, rather than relying on ommission of details so as to substantiate his position? I mean come on bro, one upload after another the past several months have failed on this front
you mean less videos but better quality?
Though I'm totally for something new/different.
like every once in a while some "tech news", if there is something he likes to talk about
Theres some potential in progressing his presentation, but the method of trim down the information being presented so as to not interfere with the conclusion at the end, effectively restricting factual details
Just watched the 'russia narrative falls apart again' spot he put up
Maybe he should try to pull a styx every once in a while?
or a bit Mehdi Sadaghdar
And the title reflects his sentiment and conclusion, whixh are both in part dependent on his presentation of the figures so far found culpable in relation to the campaign / president
He should approach the matter by steel manning the arguement hes competing against
tim is kinda doing what he can aford to do right now, he talks about doing more but i and others assume he isint ready yet. a year or 2 ago he did a lot more on the ground coverage but i dont know what the finacial differences are now and then
For sure, we will all have some constraints. But my criticism is more directly trusted towards his model of rhetoric.
Trusted=thrust
whats his rhetoric?
Lay the premise of the matter to favor his conclusion, often by trim away details that are not favorable to his conclusion
In the russia narrative video from today
tim has conclusions?
His conclusion is that the activity and pursuit of the matters are unwarranted and is a device being wielded by those who need a narrative to weaponize against the president
i think you might be getting tim and sargon confused, they have very similar formats but the difference is that tim though he shares his opinion doesent hold that as being whats important in his videos. he really only hits hard on his opinion when hes frustrated (usually with storys hes covered for a while that he thinks should be over) or the premise is rediculuous
And cites the prosecutions up to now as one area to consider, asserting that the violations on their part are not russia related stuff, like money laundering
tims opinion on the russia case has been building up over like 50 videos hes done on it for the last 3 years
what you see in his last video is basicly the colmination of him formulating his opinion based on so many events that have occured in the trump/russia story over that time
so citation needed would be like a 2 hour long video
Of course, I'd expect just that, but he is failing to factor in the Rick gates and manafort conspiracy to defraud the us charges, in his statements about all the wrong doing is unrelated to the core investigation
And by doing so, and rolling with 'it's all unrelated' set of info, he doesn't have to collide with details inconvenient to his conclusion
Itd be a superior job of opinion forming on his part to take stock of matters of fact that are available to him
personally dont know much about that, but from everything ive heard about the trump/russia investigation i havent seen anything like a smoking gun, not even the smoke from a gun. theres been tons of bs that have popped up around it with people questioning trumps actions, other tangential accusations that have nothing to do with trump/russia simply to defame him, ect. id think if anything were actually released that gave anyone a reason to believe the trump/russia connection, tim would have mentioned it and i think i would have heard about it by now. thing with muellar is that he can potentially not share any information he has uncovered in his investigation and may be holding some kind of smoking gun until he can find finger prints on it, but so far things have been incredibly slow and uneventful in the investigation. people have investigated less and found more by this point in other conspericys
Fair opinion, especially considering the blizzard of details to fog up our field of view
In your judgement, what would a "smoking gun" or just compelling evidence, look like for you ?
i think that the best evidence that news media only care about the russian collusion story because it sells is the actual fact that we really havent gotten anything legitimently good on this story yet, but its still the number 1 story they push.