Message from @JadenFrostwolf

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2018-01-10 08:25:50 UTC  

is it that bad?

2018-01-10 08:26:15 UTC  
2018-01-10 08:26:34 UTC  

you don't get charged taxes for fresh fruits, veggies, meats, and other basics

2018-01-10 08:26:47 UTC  

I'm really not too familiar with our tax system, myself. Sometimes you overpay and get more money back, sometimes you get a phone call from the IRS telling you that you owe them 5000 dollars.

2018-01-10 08:26:56 UTC  

in the US it depends on the state

2018-01-10 08:27:06 UTC  

State plays a part, yeah.

2018-01-10 08:27:18 UTC  

So different tax brackets per state?

2018-01-10 08:27:27 UTC  

I assumed the US had the same in every state?

2018-01-10 08:27:33 UTC  

abd if you don't pay enough they send you to jail till you pay it off

2018-01-10 08:27:39 UTC  

Like with that new tax plan.

2018-01-10 08:27:53 UTC  

Like, food items altogether are not taxed in California, whereas in Georgia only *fresh* food items are not taxes, if I remember correctly. Even if I am not, it's along those lines.

2018-01-10 08:27:56 UTC  

I assumed it will be implemented in every state

2018-01-10 08:27:57 UTC  

there is a federal tax nation wide then there is a state level then a city level

2018-01-10 08:28:02 UTC  

Ah I see

2018-01-10 08:28:28 UTC  

I'm not too familiar with th enew tax plan, either. lol

2018-01-10 08:28:28 UTC  

How the fuck man. So the average man for example. Of the money he recieves, how much of it goes to the govt?

2018-01-10 08:28:30 UTC  

so why tax our money so much?

2018-01-10 08:28:45 UTC  

Dunno really, I only heard good things of the new plan

2018-01-10 08:28:53 UTC  

about 30-40% by the end of the year

2018-01-10 08:28:56 UTC  

But then I already said I listen to more conservative sources

2018-01-10 08:29:03 UTC  

Well, it doesn't seem like a lot at face value, but if you actually add it all up some people can get taxed as high as about... I think 45%?

2018-01-10 08:29:22 UTC  

Thats almost european level of taxes.

2018-01-10 08:29:35 UTC  

With none of the benefits. lol

2018-01-10 08:29:36 UTC  

if you own property it is worse than renting

2018-01-10 08:29:49 UTC  

I mean, they should probably treat the govt like a buisness, if you want people to willingly give you money, provide a better service.

2018-01-10 08:29:51 UTC  

and a 20t debt

2018-01-10 08:30:08 UTC  

Instead of forcing everyone to pay the higher taxes.

2018-01-10 08:30:24 UTC  

And giving tax reductions to the wealthy.

2018-01-10 08:30:42 UTC  

that is why I say a one sales tax... no income tax no property tax... simple math

2018-01-10 08:30:51 UTC  

Which sounds good on paper, but it requires us to just "trust" that the companies/corporations will use that money to actually provide jobs instead of just pocketing it.

2018-01-10 08:31:12 UTC  

I mean, penalizing companies for going overseas was kinda one step

2018-01-10 08:31:18 UTC  

the tax deductions are about the same accross the board

2018-01-10 08:31:23 UTC  

Or providing incentives to those who stay

2018-01-10 08:31:27 UTC  

And if you trust the wealthy to not just pocket the money, you have far more faith in them than I do lol.

2018-01-10 08:31:43 UTC  

Well... I am from a wealthy family here so I kinda do.

2018-01-10 08:31:48 UTC  

rich don't become rich by hoarding

2018-01-10 08:32:03 UTC  

I know, it's through investing.

2018-01-10 08:32:08 UTC  

they become rich by investing and keeping the money fresh

2018-01-10 08:32:11 UTC  

And i can say, they just happened to work really hard and invested intelligently.

2018-01-10 08:32:23 UTC  

Maybe its the perspective some people have of the rich?

2018-01-10 08:32:30 UTC  

yes