Same I can say he lies, I am not him. He might, he might not.

What is important is the conclusion people get from it.

Not what the author meant specifically when he wrote that passage at that moment.

Baisically, it's like a summary of atheism like this: we want to rid of religioun in politics.
But said in a way that sounds like you want to masacre religious ppl

That is how weird the commie manifesto is written

but it is after all 60 tiny pages with huge text that summarises thousands of thousands of pages from other books

Now that is fascinating

Its a summary, but a badly compiled one in your opinion?

Well people dont have the time.

Extremely badly in a sense

If it was to at least explain what it means with a lot of shit, it needs at least 3 a4 pages on each thing

Otherwise you could draw a very weird conclusion compared to the literature

For example: We (communists) want to abolish the family. Now, we do not want to abolish it to remover families altogether, what we want to abolish is the family you (the bourgeois) know of.

People take that out of it's context considering it's time and try to apply it in today, in which case they get the impression that here should be no homeschooling and society is the parents

Read other literature where they, Marx and Engels, talk about the family and what they want to change, they explain some fundamental differences between the working classes families and the bourgeois families

Thats the issue if it takes thousands of pages.

TO come to one conclusion

And then crush it down to double digits

and in short, most the points are that the labourers kids should have equall opportunity as the bourgeois kids

Yes

And considering that time period, the summary I gave wouldn't work

Then how did it become what it is now?

People forget that a different time period must be considered not only as to why something was worded the way it was, but also why it wasn't worded in a, in our time, better way

How the hell did it turn from empowering the worker to subjugating the population

As you said, ppl are lazy and just read the manifesto

And then someone on top realises if he cherry picks pages from Das Kapital he can get ppl on his side to help him get more power

Jesus its like the koran

I've met communists that are like "I have only read some parts of Das Kapital" and coincidentally it os the parts in which the state is the hero and the companies are evil. Never a single part that praises parts of capitalism

Or that distinguishes percieved capitalism from actual capitalism

He does explain how the free market, on the contrary to how it is percieved, is separate from capitalism

Have you heard of a commie that is part of a big commie group ever say anything like that?

They are always against the free market because it is capitalistic (in a russian accent)

Ive never met a commie like that. You know, one that knows that much. But then again, Im not gonna pretend I read Marx's work

You consider me a commie?

I didnt say that

Like I said I never met a commie that knows that much.

Much like I never met a christian who knows the bible beyond memorizing verses

Oh, ok

Just checking

The people I find more knowledgable on relligion ive met are people who dont practice it as much

I would probably consider myself a Marxist if it wasn't for those that already do. Don't wanna be associated with those shets

As they are more likely to question it