i dont know what kind of fascist you have encountered...
but we need fascism to clean up current mess.

Fascism doesn't clean up anything, it just causes more problems. The only failure of state worse than Fascism is communism, but that's only because it takes longer to fail and causes more suffering because of it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-gay-sex-death-penalty-un-same-sex-relations-human-rights-council-saudi-arabia-iraq-nikki-haley-a7980981.html?fbclid=IwAR24dBWHV9gMg5tkYEwu0o1sCFemAkLVJnXu6Lgb4ppPeyTUAsvpZGePrp4

I just saw this on facebook.

this is a perfect example of fake news right here

Yes they opposed a vote to abolish the death penalty not just the death penalty for being gay...

I think you would like this @Timcast

@Dennafen how does facism cause problems?
historically it have worked really well.
and what suffering?

The only real failed Facist regimes were Nazi Germany and Italy - Spain was relatively stable for decades, same with many South American Facist states until overthrown by a world power.

Longest Time Egypt and Turkey were facist and were extrmely secular, safe, and stable

Communism did nothing wrong. They just starved it wasn't communisms fault. This is what you sound like.

Fucking blue pill of a different kind.

@Dennafen not an argument.

communism worked like planed. it was never inteded to be good for people, it was to exploit and enslave whole nation and get every resourse out of peoples hand.

and nazi germany and italy didint fail per say.
they were defeated.

Okay Stefan Molyneux bot. I agree it's not an argument that's why I threw it in your face.

I made the same argument you made for fascism for communism it's an idiotic argument.

what you mean?
germanys economy was strong and it brought propsperity, people were happy.

Show me stats that show Germans being happy during it's fascist regime. That's something you pulled out of your ass because you fetishize Nazis, not an actual fact.

_technically_ there were a large amount of people that were happy. There was also a large section that wasn't.

what kind of "happy" statistic you want🤔

Anything that's not you making something up because you adore Hitler.

Yeah there were a lot of people that were happy under stalin, that it was arguably the greatest super power known to the world at it's peak.

Communism is great isn't it?

Again this is what you sound like @Jasse

This is your argument.

Oh yeah. And no one ever feigned happiness under threat of being killed for not following party doctrine.

In Nazi germany, everyone was a nazi

you weren't allowed to not be

Fascism was a new form of socialism, because they thought the comies were too soft on their people.

in all fairness, fascism is a more practical version of socialism

So is comunism.

Well yeah it takes into account that humans are actually humans

Communism is designed for bugs

communism is an ideal that has never been achieved

communism is the least practical

Stalinism?

Let's go with that.

5 year plans were succesful in industrialising Russia

Yeah, when you throw your civilians into a wood chipper you can get some results

@Dennafen https://youtu.be/LQdDnbXXn20

USSR was not a Communist end-state. Nobody has achieved that. The boot process is fucked

All I'm saying is that Fascism fucks up countries, as much as communism does, and it's only slight better because once the initial ruler dies it falls apart.