Message from @Ottobon

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2018-11-11 17:35:59 UTC  

As we know government and private are all susceptible to abuse and corruption... we humans are clever things lol

2018-11-11 17:36:57 UTC  

I also dont like the idea that I'm forced to help by government either...

2018-11-11 17:43:16 UTC  

Unless we are willing to cull kids that have inadequate support, speaking entirely biologically it is better for us to ensure those kids grow up with the health and education to be productive members of society.

2018-11-11 17:44:28 UTC  

Otherwise we almost ensure they will grow to be wards of the state, either due to welfare or the justice system.

2018-11-11 17:46:55 UTC  

There's a lot of truth in that, and that's the struggle, where is the happy medium 😏

2018-11-11 18:09:21 UTC  

Id rather the justice system take care of them than waste money on social programs just to have the justice system have to kick in afterwards

2018-11-11 18:30:57 UTC  

But why not avoid the justice system entirely? Create contributing members of society?

2018-11-11 18:31:29 UTC  

Social programs dont do that

2018-11-11 18:33:40 UTC  

Youth programs do. Head Start, for example, has good data. So does school lunches. The youth programs are the success stories.

2018-11-11 18:35:13 UTC  

Boy scouts should be boys only end of story change my mind

2018-11-11 18:35:54 UTC  

I'm actually not going to try with that one

2018-11-11 18:36:09 UTC  

I don't think anyone here will take that bait

2018-11-11 18:36:53 UTC  

I was on 37% battery anyway

2018-11-11 18:36:57 UTC  

I'm a believer that there are differences between boys and girls, on average, and having spaces for each to develop independently while also ensuring they can relate well to each other is a good thing

2018-11-11 18:38:22 UTC  

I am a woman married to a woman and we have two kids, a boy and a girl. We have ensured our kids have male role models that they interact with all the time. Our son considers my dad his father and we've embraced that. My dad and my son talk about stuff my wife and I never hear about and that's a good thing.

2018-11-11 18:39:59 UTC  

I know. This browser Discord takes some getting used to. I'm also not the worlds best typist. 😿

2018-11-11 18:40:39 UTC  

I use mobile mostly

2018-11-11 18:41:04 UTC  

I do too, but I'm even slower at that. I didn't grow up with smart phones.

2018-11-11 18:41:35 UTC  

I used to be extremely slow

2018-11-11 18:45:08 UTC  

Wamen are different from mans

2018-11-11 18:52:38 UTC  

begina

2018-11-11 18:52:40 UTC  

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2018-11-11 18:53:20 UTC  

Don't you mean wamxn?

2018-11-11 18:54:05 UTC  

good point

2018-11-11 18:54:15 UTC  

menn't

2018-11-11 19:20:09 UTC  

Sigh

2018-11-11 19:21:06 UTC  

I vote for pragmatism

2018-11-11 19:21:16 UTC  

Fuck passion, let's get some shit done

2018-11-11 19:22:55 UTC  

Indeed, passion as a driving force alone is almost entirely worthless.

2018-11-11 19:23:29 UTC  

If I had a dick the idea of a bipartisan ticket would give me a hardon :p

2018-11-11 19:23:49 UTC  

But I don't like those policies. I don't think they're effective or good for the nation.

2018-11-11 19:24:03 UTC  

Compromise is bad?

2018-11-11 19:24:06 UTC  

Therefore, I do not want to make these positions prominent or encourage their growth.

2018-11-11 19:24:40 UTC  

I didn't say cooperation and compromise is bad. I'm saying that these specific policies they're promoting under 'moderation' are bad for the nation.

2018-11-11 19:24:57 UTC  

Just because something is proclaimed to be 'moderate' doesn't mean it's better.

2018-11-11 19:26:24 UTC  

I swear if these two run an independent ticket I may get politically active again for the first time since 1992. Between Never-Trumpers and Third Way Dems, it might be the only path to a successful third party

2018-11-11 19:27:00 UTC  

I never claimed it would be the truth, Jasse

2018-11-11 19:27:06 UTC  

Okay, but if you do that, don't do it because it's moderate. Do it because you believe their policies are the best for the nation.

2018-11-11 19:27:24 UTC  

I simply claimed that it might be the best way to heal a sharply divided nation