I detested it in the 60's, I detested it in the 80's/90's, and I detest it now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

How's that for silencing on a college campus?

there shouldnt be silencing on campuses

or any schools

Agreed

the moment it is uniformaly agreed on whole campus and you have a bubble with one idea then something is wrong

You are kinda missing the point of the question if you have to use examples from 50 years ago

the point was not to discuss history

Maybe that's because my experience as a college student is 30 years old :p

My personal experience is my reality

it's like the slavery talk, when someone says reps wanted to end slavery and people try to dig for examples of reps that owned slaves. It's besides the point

Fair, I guess

So my life experience is beside the point 😿

But I highly doubt that people on the right wouldn't support you if you were protesting for free speech for people on the left

I can't say as I am now close to 50 years old and haven't exercised campus free speech in a rather long time. I just know that silencing has a long, terrible history. Historically it has been the right who has wielded the club. Now it may well be the left (although that may not be the case on a religious campus). Just because those doing the silencing may have changed, doesn't make it any less wrong.

I agree with Tim that college is where kids (should) go to be exposed to a multitude of ideas. If that is not happening, the system is broken and needs to be reexamined. It saddens me to hear Tim repeat his derision for college attandance. I loved it and I've worked my ass off for 25 years to make sure my kids can go without any debt.

Silencing also has a long, wonderful history.

Many a poor soul has had poisonous and harmful ideas and lies destroyed long before it could reach them.

TBF, I can soooorta see the point?

on the other hand, I'm unsure if that classes as defamation

I'm beginning to think we need to the Social Democrats the door and recover the Liberal Democrat party from the left ¬.¬

show the Social Democrats, even

at this point, it'd be easier to just make a 4 party system

liberal and autocratic, and 1 for each side

so where does UKIP go? (off, somewhere .. to retire in spain ?)

not sure honestly...

or we just adopt a PR voting system and get rid of FPTP

Or burn down the party systems entirely?

good luck with that

human politics is in some ways, very collectivist 😉 collectively together groups of MPs can do more to achieve goals than individually

@DrYuriMom college should be something you go to to improve yourself, not to be a viable member of the work force. Even professions that really should require a degree, like doctors, shouldn't be straight tracked from high school. You should have working experience in the related field. And i mean working for a salary, not just for credits as part of a college program. Unfortunately we stopped treating college as a place of learn and more like the new GED. a requirement to enter the work force at almost every level. On top of that, we looked down up jobs that didn't require education as bad.

When you make a society that views farmers as bad, don't be surprised when you run out of farmers.

College today is not the college of the past

its extended high school and i thought the last few years of high school was a waste while in high school.

I have yet to see how it wasn't.

My college degree was even a waste even though i got a job in the industry because i don't feel it was necessary.

Do we need degrees in things like graphics design? What happened to assistants who trained under masters?

we replaced the masters with bureaucracy which just means anyone can pay enough money and become "qualified"

there is no human who assigns the quality of the student, just faceless organizations which spit out a student with cert that isn't even worth the paper its written on.

*doesnt want someone 'working in the field' to get 'life experience' and working for a wage BEFORE they goto med school to be his GP