@halfthink Commies advocate for things that violate the core of their belief system all the time

communism is close to perfect on very small scales but as soon as you dont see/speak/know the people you are sharing with it goes to shit

I don' t know why other utopian ideologues can't

Communism is incoherent, it is impossible to advocate for it at all.

Communism as a system of government cannot work. It is inherently authoritarian.

Their core beliefs are set up in a capitalist world. They’re not possible in a world where resources are scarce.

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That is the issue.

Resources will always be scarce.

At the end of the day I'll say that the moment that Anarcho-communism becomes possible, Anarcho-Capitalism became possible a few moments prior. Both are utopian.

This idea that only libertarians that are libertarians need to be ancap, is the cancer that ensured these libertarians will **all be autistic** without concept of gray area.

There is zero chance a spacefaring society like a Star Trek world doesn’t become communist.

Ancap is political autism.

Communism is science fiction.

Ancom is political schizophrenia...

Scarcity exists even with replicators.

@whiic I really should start using Minarchist instead.

It’s not worth discussing until resources are plentiful.

And then it becomes colonial in real world senses.

@H3llbender Well, minarchism (i.e small "L" libertarians, thicc libertarians) are also pretty much co-opted by ancap thinking.

They are just ancaps who allow for police. Even they reject: roads, welfare, etc.

Because there is a lot of people have just enough knowledge to totally derail the conversation

Ancaps want police, just privatised.

Like the roads won’t become capitalist with asphalt and right of way becoming the capital.

@halfthink Halfthink really suit as your name.

How is private police different from mafia, btw?

Ancaps are not communists.

Also regarding General Welfare because this is very important, Article 1 Section 8 clearly defines General Welfare. If anyone can find anything in here that sounds like "welfare" is it's colloquially known today, they have a very large imagination. https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html

mafia steals yourshit if you dont pay, private police lets others stel your shit if you dont pay

@whiic It is enough to rid the knee-jerk reaction that I am fighting though through, which is enough for my vague sense of localism to prevail I think.

Can we all agree that education is a right, therefore everyone should be able to access it without drowning in debt?

no

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not on the common sense

@whiic private police would be voluntarily funded and have competition. How is a state different from the Mafia?

The definition of general welfare is defined by the Supreme Court.

@DefinitlyNotInsane - NL What prevents private police from stealing as well?

You have the right to educate yourself, but you can't force anyone else to do it.

And pretending it doesn’t is mental masturbation.

To educate yourself, you need the means