Message from @vlnc.co

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2018-07-06 22:10:54 UTC  

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2018-07-06 22:11:16 UTC  

it is not absolute, there are things you can not own, and stuff some people should not own

2018-07-06 22:11:23 UTC  

i dont expect to be rank #1 for very long, i was just very active the day mini tim was added to the server

2018-07-06 22:11:26 UTC  

agreed

2018-07-06 22:11:38 UTC  

things you can not own: people
things you should not own: recreational nukes

2018-07-06 22:11:52 UTC  

^

2018-07-06 22:11:56 UTC  

So lads

2018-07-06 22:11:57 UTC  

Yeah, you're only ahead of zutt by about 450XP right now Arch-Fiend

2018-07-06 22:12:02 UTC  

unless we have a bombass conversation in <#464233883303673868>

2018-07-06 22:12:10 UTC  

im kinda burned out on politics atm

2018-07-06 22:12:11 UTC  

but also frig off prescribing me morals is a breach of the nap

2018-07-06 22:12:18 UTC  

_has the leaderboard up_

2018-07-06 22:12:18 UTC  

Are you watching the brexit show ?

2018-07-06 22:12:45 UTC  

>in anticipation of you retaliating for me violating your NAP, thus you violating my NAP, i recreationally nuke you

2018-07-06 22:13:05 UTC  

Frankly if sargon and is ukip friends play this right they could easily get back to over 10% national poling

2018-07-06 22:13:29 UTC  

yes, @vlnc.co, that is the point.... it was voluntary agreement that you made to give up some of the property rights in exchange to live in a particular homeowner association

2018-07-06 22:14:05 UTC  

well lets say the sound system is so loud that it can pollute a neighboring hoa

2018-07-06 22:14:12 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth i agree, such as intellectual property rights 😉

2018-07-06 22:14:56 UTC  

shouldnt there be laws to restrict that from happening too?

2018-07-06 22:15:09 UTC  

the point about property rights is that you are free to contract and modify the terms with other individuals .... the glory of voluntaryism!

2018-07-06 22:15:42 UTC  

but the neighboring hoa had no contractual agreement with you

2018-07-06 22:16:06 UTC  

Sometimes the municipality also has some rules, under which every hoa falls

2018-07-06 22:16:30 UTC  

If your sound "pollutes" a neighboring hoa, then you're likely playing your music louder than the municipality allows

2018-07-06 22:16:43 UTC  

in which case, the police are legally allowed to come to you and stop you

2018-07-06 22:17:17 UTC  

that would all depends on the rest of the ppl... if they dont care for whatever reason... why should there be laws against that if they all explicitly agreed to ngaf about loud music

2018-07-06 22:17:41 UTC  

Well if they all agreed to not care, then none of them would call the cops

2018-07-06 22:17:41 UTC  

on the other hand... just think about it from a homeownership association point of view

2018-07-06 22:17:50 UTC  

yeah, and i think that's a good thing. im arguing that certain limitations to ownership that includes everyone in a juristiction isnt always a bad thing.

2018-07-06 22:17:54 UTC  

thats like a micro government that is consentual

2018-07-06 22:19:42 UTC  

but, @vlnc.co, that is all sorted out in the market economy via explicit contracts and stipulations, etc

2018-07-06 22:20:25 UTC  

you will WANT to negotiate some rights away in return for certain privileges in the real world

2018-07-06 22:21:09 UTC  

like i give up the right to play obnoxiously loud music in my neighborhood in return for the others to agree to the same terms in the homeowner association

2018-07-06 22:21:28 UTC  

it all just boils down to consent and explicit contracts, my friends

2018-07-06 22:22:28 UTC  

"consent of the governed" etc ..... its like we try and masquerade under this idea already but never really bother to think about it deeper

2018-07-06 22:23:47 UTC  

there would still be a *de facto* government in a pure free market economy bcuz of all the contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually

2018-07-06 22:24:49 UTC  

a lot of security firms would be run by insurance companies... etc bcuz they have an incentive to keep things peaceful and prevent damages and costs, etc

2018-07-06 22:25:24 UTC  

And then firearms manufacturers would be run by the security firms, or run by the military, like they used to be

2018-07-06 22:26:00 UTC  

PEACE officers... bring them back!

2018-07-06 22:28:29 UTC  

all possible under private (consentual) governance

2018-07-06 22:30:31 UTC  

i like your picture poptarts