Message from @LotheronPrime

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2018-07-09 00:20:13 UTC  

Tim should do more in-depth analysis of #walkaway instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

2018-07-09 00:20:22 UTC  

But when most people hear 'conservative' they think right wing christianity

2018-07-09 00:20:44 UTC  

Christanity is not conservative by any means.

2018-07-09 00:21:02 UTC  

Islam and Orthodox Judism might be.

2018-07-09 00:21:19 UTC  

conservative is right wing

2018-07-09 00:21:30 UTC  

but right wing is not necessarily a bad thing

2018-07-09 00:21:59 UTC  

I mean the US was founded on right wing principles

2018-07-09 00:22:32 UTC  

the idea that people should be able to own property... trade goods etc...

2018-07-09 00:22:40 UTC  

these are right wing principals

2018-07-09 00:23:06 UTC  

religion is not really right or left... its mainly authoitarian

2018-07-09 00:23:29 UTC  

theres nothing economic about religion

2018-07-09 00:23:29 UTC  

And that is where we are at now. The Authoratarisns vs. the Libertarians.

2018-07-09 00:24:02 UTC  

yup

2018-07-09 00:24:06 UTC  

its not left v right

2018-07-09 00:24:09 UTC  

its A v L

2018-07-09 00:24:14 UTC  

Agreed

2018-07-09 00:24:15 UTC  

I think people misunderstand that

2018-07-09 00:24:51 UTC  

But if you dare say that in most places someone will pretend you're talking about the Libertarian party rather than libertarian values

2018-07-09 00:25:01 UTC  

correct

2018-07-09 00:25:08 UTC  

and nearly all european leaders are on the right side of the spectrum

2018-07-09 00:25:09 UTC  

collectivism vs individualism

2018-07-09 00:25:16 UTC  

is actually a better way to look at it

2018-07-09 00:25:20 UTC  

look how far merkel is to the right

2018-07-09 00:25:26 UTC  

C vs I.

2018-07-09 00:25:30 UTC  

Bestest.

2018-07-09 00:25:35 UTC  

authoritarian right

2018-07-09 00:25:52 UTC  

they may have elements of socialism... but they are absolutely capitalist first

2018-07-09 00:26:03 UTC  

oh yeah

2018-07-09 00:26:11 UTC  

most of the EU is capatalism first

2018-07-09 00:26:26 UTC  

Capatlist Socialists and Anti-capatlist Socialists.

2018-07-09 00:26:30 UTC  

the only way that socialist programs are supported is throught he back of captalist prosperity

2018-07-09 00:26:41 UTC  

soemthing somewhere has to pay for it

2018-07-09 00:26:53 UTC  

so either you flatten the hierarchy

2018-07-09 00:27:18 UTC  

or you have hierarchy funding the safetly nets

2018-07-09 00:27:18 UTC  

You can;t force Goverment to pay for everything. And you can;t have Goverment force to pay you everything.

2018-07-09 00:27:18 UTC  

I got called a 'radical individualist' by a family member recently for saying that splitting everyone up by race to determine privilege is a poor way to do things because it's going to create division and does a poor job at accurately predicting an idividual's experiences

2018-07-09 00:27:24 UTC  

conservatives are the new liberals (of the past) for the most part. so you can see how there are right-wing liberals as an accurate description of some of them too

2018-07-09 00:27:39 UTC  

don't you know

2018-07-09 00:27:44 UTC  

the parties switched

2018-07-09 00:27:55 UTC  

so it was really the democrats that freed the slaves

2018-07-09 00:27:56 UTC  

😃