Message from @wacka

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2018-07-09 00:16:34 UTC  

but anyway, people don't like to be singlular voices, so anytime there can be a collective narrative, people are more apt to come out in support, if they support.. otherwise it's off with their heads

2018-07-09 00:16:36 UTC  

if more normal folk say "Im conservative" it may start to normalize trump a bit

2018-07-09 00:16:43 UTC  

umm yeah, it probably is

2018-07-09 00:16:52 UTC  

Any collective movement is bound to have financial backing.

2018-07-09 00:16:58 UTC  

I bet morgan freeman is conservative

2018-07-09 00:17:01 UTC  

Whether it is on the Left or the Right.

2018-07-09 00:17:45 UTC  

Soros vs. Koch. Go.

2018-07-09 00:18:43 UTC  

It's annoying that 'conservative' has right wing connotations

2018-07-09 00:19:06 UTC  

Isn't there conservative Democrats and conservative Libertarians?

2018-07-09 00:19:19 UTC  

There are a lot of laws with left wing values that have been around for a while and should be conserved

2018-07-09 00:19:33 UTC  

Depends on who you ask

2018-07-09 00:20:13 UTC  

Tim should do more in-depth analysis of #walkaway instead of jumping on the bandwagon.

2018-07-09 00:20:22 UTC  

But when most people hear 'conservative' they think right wing christianity

2018-07-09 00:20:44 UTC  

Christanity is not conservative by any means.

2018-07-09 00:21:02 UTC  

Islam and Orthodox Judism might be.

2018-07-09 00:21:19 UTC  

conservative is right wing

2018-07-09 00:21:30 UTC  

but right wing is not necessarily a bad thing

2018-07-09 00:21:59 UTC  

I mean the US was founded on right wing principles

2018-07-09 00:22:32 UTC  

the idea that people should be able to own property... trade goods etc...

2018-07-09 00:22:40 UTC  

these are right wing principals

2018-07-09 00:23:06 UTC  

religion is not really right or left... its mainly authoitarian

2018-07-09 00:23:29 UTC  

theres nothing economic about religion

2018-07-09 00:23:29 UTC  

And that is where we are at now. The Authoratarisns vs. the Libertarians.

2018-07-09 00:24:02 UTC  

yup

2018-07-09 00:24:06 UTC  

its not left v right

2018-07-09 00:24:09 UTC  

its A v L

2018-07-09 00:24:14 UTC  

Agreed

2018-07-09 00:24:15 UTC  

I think people misunderstand that

2018-07-09 00:24:51 UTC  

But if you dare say that in most places someone will pretend you're talking about the Libertarian party rather than libertarian values

2018-07-09 00:25:01 UTC  

correct

2018-07-09 00:25:08 UTC  

and nearly all european leaders are on the right side of the spectrum

2018-07-09 00:25:09 UTC  

collectivism vs individualism

2018-07-09 00:25:16 UTC  

is actually a better way to look at it

2018-07-09 00:25:20 UTC  

look how far merkel is to the right

2018-07-09 00:25:26 UTC  

C vs I.

2018-07-09 00:25:30 UTC  

Bestest.

2018-07-09 00:25:35 UTC  

authoritarian right

2018-07-09 00:25:52 UTC  

they may have elements of socialism... but they are absolutely capitalist first

2018-07-09 00:26:03 UTC  

oh yeah

2018-07-09 00:26:11 UTC  

most of the EU is capatalism first

2018-07-09 00:26:26 UTC  

Capatlist Socialists and Anti-capatlist Socialists.