Message from @i3utm

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2018-07-09 00:51:36 UTC  

yeah, and it already takes place... so if ppl are taxed less, the charitable ppl (mostly poor & middle class conservatives.... btw), they have more to give

2018-07-09 00:51:51 UTC  

One thing that I like is paying doctors and physicians directly in cash or other monetary compensation for services rendered.

2018-07-09 00:52:14 UTC  

not to mention all the "friendly societies" that pre-existed statist meddling into healthcare services

2018-07-09 00:52:15 UTC  

that just gets around the insurance system and yeah that does have some affect

2018-07-09 00:52:56 UTC  

but it doesn't help those that don't have any way to pay

2018-07-09 00:53:26 UTC  

and i'm not talking emergency services, those are already guaranteed, etc, I'm talking chronic illnesses like cancer

2018-07-09 00:53:41 UTC  

there is always a way ... and there will always be more potential charitable capital to make the difference

2018-07-09 00:53:43 UTC  

shits expensive regardless of insurance, not something most normal people can just pay cash for

2018-07-09 00:54:12 UTC  

What about have a corporation, company, organization, or private investor "sponsor" your cancer for a treatment. All experimental drugs. No FDA interference.

2018-07-09 00:54:27 UTC  

there could perhaps be utility in the state connecting people willing to help and people in need. But giving the state money is the last thing you want to do. Its like taking all the healthcare companies, and make them just one giant entity, Then taking the greedy hospital boards and adding them in too. Its just more money for politicians to raid to pay their debts on bad deals.

2018-07-09 00:55:09 UTC  

yeah, giving the state money is not a good idea either

2018-07-09 00:55:26 UTC  

I'm also not totally opposed to a single payer system

2018-07-09 00:55:31 UTC  

or Kickstarter 😄

2018-07-09 00:55:33 UTC  

buuut I just don't know how it would work

2018-07-09 00:55:35 UTC  

like pensions for my recent state reps who all retired at like 50, while like no one in the work force can retire before like 60 or 70, realistically, and very few if any have pensions.

2018-07-09 00:55:44 UTC  

kickstarter and gofundme, etc days are numbered

2018-07-09 00:55:55 UTC  

when people stop realizing the value from donations

2018-07-09 00:56:17 UTC  

I don't tsee that as a long term solution

2018-07-09 00:56:22 UTC  

why public officials even HAD the option of pensions for being in office way too fucking long is beyond me.

2018-07-09 00:56:32 UTC  

A Blockchain-funded DAO that funds your Healthcare plan, according to how much you can "mine" in what you can do for your diseases' research?

2018-07-09 00:56:46 UTC  

exactly, what i was saying, @LotheronPrime

2018-07-09 00:56:48 UTC  

I am so agaisnt digital mining

2018-07-09 00:57:04 UTC  

its basically fiat while burning real resources

2018-07-09 00:57:08 UTC  

so stupid

2018-07-09 00:57:17 UTC  

depends on what you are "mining"

2018-07-09 00:57:26 UTC  

I feel like all that computing power could be put to some use....

2018-07-09 00:57:31 UTC  

yeah some mining is for research etc

2018-07-09 00:57:37 UTC  

good old seti days, etc

2018-07-09 00:57:47 UTC  

like mining medical data to find cures or stella info to find new planets or something

2018-07-09 00:57:50 UTC  

and whatever that cancer genome one was

2018-07-09 00:58:11 UTC  

giving over your computer to research while you are asleep and getting some compensation for it that can go towards your healthcare doesn't sound too unethical.

2018-07-09 00:58:19 UTC  

security nightmare? perhaps

2018-07-09 00:58:25 UTC  

nah but then you're just shifting costs to electricity

2018-07-09 00:58:35 UTC  

and unless you made a net positive there

2018-07-09 00:58:45 UTC  

it wouldn't be worth it

2018-07-09 00:58:56 UTC  

someone is going to be eating up the electricity

2018-07-09 00:59:09 UTC  

either its a few supercomputers over a long period of time

2018-07-09 00:59:11 UTC  

yeah but YOU pay for the electricity YOU use so any credits you get

2018-07-09 00:59:13 UTC  

the problem is going to be confirming the data

2018-07-09 00:59:19 UTC  

or a few million computers over a shorter period of time