Message from Deleted User in Subverse #general

2018-07-14 04:29:24 UTC  

yeah its all authoritarian

2018-07-14 04:29:30 UTC  

Farming tools maybe?

2018-07-14 04:29:43 UTC  

i read history books all day, i see it all the damn time

2018-07-14 04:29:57 UTC  

Authority vs. Liberty.

2018-07-14 04:30:14 UTC  

Not Right vs. Left.

2018-07-14 04:30:15 UTC  

So was my initial statement right?

2018-07-14 04:30:22 UTC  

Yeah I see the point there.

2018-07-14 04:30:54 UTC  

British Raj come to mind.

2018-07-14 04:31:47 UTC  

Ok lets just say that people in power can and will use whatever ideological and governing technique available to consolidate their control

2018-07-14 04:32:10 UTC  

I think we got to look more in-depth into the tenets of fascism rather, to see the reason for that categorical differences

2018-07-14 04:32:14 UTC  

Well, they will. The sorts of people who come to power are like that.

2018-07-14 04:32:32 UTC  

"Is Fascism right wing, or just a form of government that is neither left nor right, like Democracy?"

2018-07-14 04:32:34 UTC  

Well, like fascism as we know it now or fasces, when it used to be that wierd axe and faggot combo

2018-07-14 04:32:37 UTC  

this was the first statement

2018-07-14 04:32:39 UTC  

Bundle of sticks

2018-07-14 04:33:14 UTC  

together we are strong

2018-07-14 04:33:43 UTC  

Fascism is specifically right wing and communism is specifically left wing, but at the end its hard to tell the real difference in the pile of bodies

2018-07-14 04:33:52 UTC  

Together, we are strong individually.

2018-07-14 04:33:56 UTC  

Yeah that's the thing

2018-07-14 04:34:01 UTC  

how is fascism right wing

2018-07-14 04:34:09 UTC  

How is it an ideology

2018-07-14 04:34:11 UTC  

nationalism is right wing

2018-07-14 04:34:12 UTC  

Im pointing out the logic people use.

2018-07-14 04:34:20 UTC  

They see nationalist, and they see right wing

2018-07-14 04:34:29 UTC  

I dont agree with that acessment

2018-07-14 04:34:37 UTC  

But thats how people tend to make the connection

2018-07-14 04:34:41 UTC  

its an ideology because it dictates how people should behave and think

2018-07-14 04:34:48 UTC  

No, missdanger

2018-07-14 04:34:49 UTC  

But if you look into the actual policies they implement, they start looking more left

2018-07-14 04:34:59 UTC  

but its also kinda of a government because it dictates how government should be managed

2018-07-14 04:35:10 UTC  

Using State Power not to take control of keeping everyone happy but using State control making sure keeping national people happy.

2018-07-14 04:35:28 UTC  

Like control of the industry, taking away firearms, heck, Hitler implement alot of anti smoking and animal rights laws.

2018-07-14 04:35:37 UTC  

Hence, why the Far-Right is only interested in the Nation and the Far Left is interested in eveything bu the Nation.

2018-07-14 04:36:18 UTC  

I mean, 8values has that as a separate value

2018-07-14 04:36:22 UTC  

Nationalist vs Globalist.

2018-07-14 04:36:43 UTC  

And argues that either are not supposed to be tied to one side or the other

2018-07-14 04:37:30 UTC  

Indvidual vs. Collective.

2018-07-14 04:37:45 UTC  

thats a different dimension

2018-07-14 04:37:48 UTC  

Russian commies were pretty nationalist

2018-07-14 04:38:21 UTC  

wait, does government inherently have ideological backing?

2018-07-14 04:38:29 UTC  

Left - Right isnt really accepted anymore