Message from i3utm in Subverse #general


2018-07-14 05:27:06 UTC  

Though understand here. People compare right wing here to US right wing

2018-07-14 05:27:29 UTC  

So they assume the US is full of relligious fundamentalists that think LGBT is sinful but are okay with cousin marriage and child brides.

2018-07-14 05:27:31 UTC  

alot of people compare to us

2018-07-14 05:28:04 UTC  

its weird cause they often misinterpret

2018-07-14 05:28:08 UTC  

What they dont realize, that the US has progressed so much, that Malaysia's liberal and progressive party is the right wing in the US

2018-07-14 05:28:21 UTC  

Is closer to the right wing in the US i mean

2018-07-14 05:29:40 UTC  

yea just one of the reasons i try not to use left-right cause other countries have differences

2018-07-14 05:30:01 UTC  

And well, I tend to say left and right in regards to the US unless specified otherwise

2018-07-14 05:30:09 UTC  

authoritarian vs libertarian is the more important axis anyways

2018-07-14 05:30:31 UTC  

ye

2018-07-14 05:31:18 UTC  

And dosent help that the current US left candidates are authoritharian, but somehow, the right wing is very libertarian for some reason.

2018-07-14 05:31:23 UTC  

At least according to ISideWith

2018-07-14 05:32:09 UTC  

varies per candidate imo

2018-07-14 05:32:40 UTC  

they're both moderate authoritarian parties, but at the moment the right is less authoritarian than the left

2018-07-14 05:32:55 UTC  

The most authoritharian is Pence.

2018-07-14 05:33:03 UTC  

ANd hes leaning libertarian as well

2018-07-14 05:33:12 UTC  

probably because trump is in charge and he's more interested in getting us a wall than any other changes he might want

2018-07-14 05:33:36 UTC  

Actually, Trumps closest to center I check

2018-07-14 05:33:42 UTC  

Pence is the most conservative

2018-07-14 05:33:52 UTC  

But Trump is the most centrist.

2018-07-14 05:33:59 UTC  

Trump has his own quadrant. haha

2018-07-14 05:34:04 UTC  

According to the site at least.

2018-07-14 05:34:09 UTC  

It floats around.

2018-07-14 05:34:20 UTC  

Populism is right or left wing again?

2018-07-14 05:34:38 UTC  

It depends on the policy.

2018-07-14 05:34:53 UTC  

So more accurate to say neither

2018-07-14 05:34:54 UTC  

?

2018-07-14 05:35:39 UTC  

populism is dependent on public demand

2018-07-14 06:07:24 UTC  

Bernie and Trump both campaigned as a populist

2018-07-14 06:08:14 UTC  

Populism can be either Left or Right. It's based on passion and not policy.

2018-07-14 06:08:28 UTC  

Yep

2018-07-14 06:09:21 UTC  

Usually, popularist candidates gain power when people are dissatisfied with the current political order

2018-07-14 06:09:35 UTC  

That basically the U.S. lol

2018-07-14 06:09:42 UTC  

Pretty much

2018-07-14 06:13:01 UTC  

Gaius Julius Ceasar was a member of the populares

2018-07-14 06:13:20 UTC  

His death was very unpopular with the common folk

2018-07-14 06:16:32 UTC  

Just gonna lay it out there. I WILL find every opportunity to add a historical comment to every conversation

2018-07-14 06:23:22 UTC  

History repeats itself

2018-07-14 06:24:38 UTC  

Pretty much

2018-07-14 06:28:16 UTC  

The roman civil war that resulted in the dissolution of the republic and the formation of the empire, began with the normalization of political assassinations following the killings of the gracchi brothers.

2018-07-14 06:28:20 UTC  

So...