Message from @Scarlet
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"Ocasio-Cortez wants to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and believes there should be a "clear" path to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants.
"As overseen by the Trump administration, ICE operates with virtually no accountability, ripping apart families and holding our friends and neighbors indefinitely in inhumane detention centers scattered across the United States," Ocasio-Cortez said on her website.
She also wants more protections for young unauthorized immigrants known as "Dreamers" and immigrants who have temporary protections from deportation."
I dont think so?
I believe she has the correct understanding of ICE here?
that sounds like it yea
rather silly, since the name would just change and the same policy would be carried out
its not as if we can stop enforcing borders all together
Well, eh, maybe.
If you actually ended up abolishing ICE, it'd be a big job, and you'd probably end up changing the rules that make ICE do this in the first place
But again, it's much easier to simply reform ICE
Then kill it
Here's something she was handing out, summary of her platform
That's the thing, she has things that everyone wants in there, but others that are just far-fetched.
What do you have in mind other then 'Abolish ICE'?
I’m surprised she has support for veterans on there.
Im not.
Her group are anti war, but very pro treating veteran mental problems more seriously/consistently then they have been.
100% jobs. A Keynesian idea that has failed time and time again, because it's unbelievably expensive, and bloats the birocratic system to no end.
Well its politics, they can call it a 'universal job guarentee'
Universal jobs guarantee, is how she has it on there
but it wont play out like that.
It'll play out like pre Thatcher London
Also in terms of what they actually talk about, i dont really ever hear 'universal job guarentee'
It's usually just minimum wage stuff
She probably wants the 15$ minimum wage
The housing thing will make howsing super expensive.
I dont follow.
And if it is a minimum wage thing than disemployment will go up
She'll create more people that she'll need to help
Depends. Unemployment from minimum wage hikes are usually only short term, so long as the hike is found to be tolerable.
@Scarlet well, think about it this way. Democrats overwhelmingly support citizenship of illegal immigrants and oppose deportations. A lot of them also support open borders. The most famous authority that carries out deportations and tracks down illegal immigrants is ICE, so they are in direction opposition to the previously mentioned policies.
Hence, they want to abolish ICE.
Yeah but if you sit down and think about it, it'd be better to repurpose the agency. I guess you could kill the agency and move the personnel to something else, but just exploding it and calling it a day
would be pretty pointless
Yep
Some people on the Leftists faction dont want to abolish ICE, they want to reform it
well it would have a point, it would serve to help to collapse the entire country
which is the goal
That seemed to be the general idea i saw until very recently
Dunno where the 'Abolish ICE' people came from honestly.
Im going to assume the fad will fade sooner or later.
It will