Message from @Ashers

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2018-07-16 06:58:15 UTC  

And uh

2018-07-16 06:58:19 UTC  

We ended up here?

2018-07-16 06:58:25 UTC  

??

2018-07-16 06:58:35 UTC  

Im honestly quite confused.

2018-07-16 06:58:39 UTC  

Why?

2018-07-16 06:58:41 UTC  

About*

2018-07-16 06:58:58 UTC  

How they actually ended up stating 'Abolish ICE' as part of their platform.

2018-07-16 06:59:16 UTC  

They think it's the correct position

2018-07-16 06:59:53 UTC  

I dunno either, if I had to take a guess it's a mixture of remnant dislike of "Trump's Muslim Ban"

2018-07-16 07:00:01 UTC  

They're just conjuring up fragmented ideological positions that they believe to be absolutely right.

2018-07-16 07:00:10 UTC  

Coupled with the various deportations that have made the news as of late

2018-07-16 07:00:16 UTC  

Allowed it to gain traction

2018-07-16 07:00:45 UTC  

Or rather that arrest of that lady who was separated from her family mid-day

2018-07-16 07:00:49 UTC  

Do they? I remembr when i first saw it, i skimmed over, and mistook "ICE" for the 'DEA' (I was tired or something)
But then i saw it again, googled ICE, and was very confused.

2018-07-16 07:01:12 UTC  

Just a guess

2018-07-16 07:01:19 UTC  

Abolishing ICE would be both very difficult/Alot of work, and i likely not gain them the result they want

2018-07-16 07:01:45 UTC  

It's not a very well thought out stance

2018-07-16 07:01:58 UTC  

Oh no it is a well thought out stance

2018-07-16 07:02:09 UTC  

When I asked my friend who's a lefty about it she thought they monitored the border too >.>

2018-07-16 07:02:26 UTC  

I wonder how many people have that misconception

2018-07-16 07:02:28 UTC  

Only for me to google and inform her that that's a different branch of Homeland security

2018-07-16 07:02:36 UTC  

Because that's a entirely seperate agency

2018-07-16 07:02:49 UTC  

If its not in a cnn article dont expect them to know it

2018-07-16 07:03:05 UTC  

?

2018-07-16 07:03:19 UTC  

We arent talking about people who love CNN though.

2018-07-16 07:03:48 UTC  

people rarely take the time to research issues, theyll hear something and form an opinion on it without having a solid base

2018-07-16 07:03:50 UTC  

This comes from the 'Justice Democrats' and what's her name, Ocasio Cortez

2018-07-16 07:04:01 UTC  

Yeah i got that name right.

2018-07-16 07:04:12 UTC  

These are people in a similar camp to Bernie

2018-07-16 07:04:14 UTC  

Not Clinton

2018-07-16 07:04:49 UTC  

does she think that ICE patrols the borders?

2018-07-16 07:05:53 UTC  

Ocasio Cortez? I cant imagine she does. She must at least know the gist (IE; Google search) of what they do if she put it in writing as part of her platform

2018-07-16 07:06:41 UTC  

Yea no shes definetly had someone think out her paltform for her

2018-07-16 07:06:51 UTC  

What that is exactly depends on how tinfoil hat you want to get

2018-07-16 07:07:13 UTC  

"Ocasio-Cortez wants to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and believes there should be a "clear" path to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants.

"As overseen by the Trump administration, ICE operates with virtually no accountability, ripping apart families and holding our friends and neighbors indefinitely in inhumane detention centers scattered across the United States," Ocasio-Cortez said on her website.

She also wants more protections for young unauthorized immigrants known as "Dreamers" and immigrants who have temporary protections from deportation."

2018-07-16 07:07:21 UTC  

I dont think so?

2018-07-16 07:08:13 UTC  

I believe she has the correct understanding of ICE here?

2018-07-16 07:08:26 UTC  

that sounds like it yea

2018-07-16 07:09:33 UTC  

rather silly, since the name would just change and the same policy would be carried out

2018-07-16 07:09:57 UTC  

its not as if we can stop enforcing borders all together

2018-07-16 07:10:13 UTC  

Well, eh, maybe.
If you actually ended up abolishing ICE, it'd be a big job, and you'd probably end up changing the rules that make ICE do this in the first place