Message from @pratel
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Slate Star Codex is amazing.
The problem is finding one that is not completely closed, then make them not feel attacked.
I don't understand Ocasio-Cortez' 'I was posting as an activist' statement. Like if you're an activist you're allowed to be ignorant about an issue?
yeah if you cant at least summarize said arguments in a book you didnt understand them fully
Which I admit, is very hard to do when you enter a server full of people ideologically opposed
even if u summarise them poorly its a good start
And I don't really mean physically attacked, but like ganged up on and not able to talk before being cut off
I think everyone is ignorant on something.
It's more an issue that she was taking a position she didn't really understand and she's running (essentially already won) for a position of power where her votes would have very real consequences.
yeah as bad as chats are for that tell me it wouldnt be 100x worse in a real room with like even 10 people in it hahha
As much as we hate safe spaces, youd really need to make a leftist and a rightist feel comfortable and welcome
And Israel is a very sensitive topic to alot of people.
It seems being an activist is something that politicans do not know much about. Then again, how many politicians of yesteryear are still activists?
I don't think it's a 'safe space' issue as much as it's a decorum issue.
@Grenade123 yeah well thats what civil discourse is all about
Right but I don't like when people hear a half-assed version of a story and immediately hop on twitter with their garbage hot takes...which I am now realizing describes half of twitter
It's just funny to see someone like that now a likely member of congress
You don't have to be well-versed on policies. Just issues and emotions now. Populism rules the day. It also rues the day.
It's like, on a free un-moderated server everyone wants to talk so the dominant position tends to overwhelm opposition.
It would be more effective if it were more like a formal debate with timed positions to avoid keeping people from getting overwhelmed.
Reddit is the worst at this, because then you get ideologically minded down/up voters.
Remember, these people live with a very fragile view or the world. And any time it is so little as cracked scares them.
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So it's extra hard. One good debate sends them running
Or when there's a major event and everyone floods to attack the people who would be harmed by the development
"asking for comment"
Imagine the debate between her and her opponent this Fall.
I'm sure we all know someone in some friend circle who does this.
It's very hard get them out of their shell. Particularly when they can't run behind their comrads to "recharge" so to speak
Like, I can't say how many messages I got about the 12 Russia indictments. I saw more "ARE YOU READY TO ADMIT YOUR WRONG NOW" posts everywhere (including on fairly 'closed' social media) than I ever did discussing anything about the idictments themselves.
I really like Margaret Hoove.r
Obviously, that's going to make people feel attacked.
It's also kind of shocking that R's are trying to downplay the endictments as if they arent a big deal
Like you can think Trump wasnt involved and also think its a big deal that were indicting people
It's a tribalism issue. Everyone is so obsessed with getting extra voters to themselves they've forgotten literally all other concerns.
Eh, let's not go too deep into it. I was trying to use it as an example of taking an event and go after people. It was the most recent thing so that's why I took it.
It's either be Anti-Russia or Pro-russia. And I'm not even Russian.
It's better not to get too deep on a tangent on this kind of thing.
Like the first moment I was in the ancap server, I mentioned my brother in law was a captian in the army and one guy came running out of the box like "YOUR BROTHER IN LAW IS GETTING PAID WITH STOLEN MONEY" making sound like my brother in law was an inheritantly bad dude and it's just woah buddy, that's not how you start things off.
This also happen to be the guy who would cite books about everything
recreational nukes when
lol. Which server was this? It sounds like someone being a shitlord.
Made me feel like I was debating about God and his response was "because the Bible"