Message from @JULZIFICATOR

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2018-07-16 23:54:28 UTC  

Probably one of my favorites too.

2018-07-16 23:54:29 UTC  

YAYA bud hahah love that shit

2018-07-16 23:54:40 UTC  

Lol. That would work.

2018-07-16 23:54:56 UTC  

But then you'd probably have to flood the dictionary with new entries after just 15 minutes of real conversation.

2018-07-16 23:55:17 UTC  

Pretty much what it was getting to

2018-07-16 23:55:23 UTC  

Just make a point of clarifying?

2018-07-16 23:55:31 UTC  

But better than spending an hour defining truth for the 5th time

2018-07-16 23:55:44 UTC  

Pull a Peterson. "But what do you mean when you say X?"

2018-07-16 23:55:59 UTC  

You sorta have to do that in real discussions.

2018-07-16 23:56:15 UTC  

I've had arguments with friends that lasted hours that came down to which part of a distribution we were thinking about.

2018-07-16 23:56:25 UTC  

Iron out the difference and we would be in complete agreement.

2018-07-16 23:56:53 UTC  

The challenge is knowing when you need to stop and clarify definitions.

2018-07-16 23:57:11 UTC  

you really do

2018-07-16 23:57:39 UTC  

which is why i generally end up asking like 20 questions of different far fetched scenarios to figure out peoples positions

2018-07-16 23:58:04 UTC  

That people don't do this more often in formal debate is one of those signs that people aren't really discussing as much as fighting.

2018-07-16 23:58:09 UTC  

Oh I do that anyway. Working with the abstract is fun

2018-07-16 23:58:09 UTC  

which can be hard when they treat those questions as attempted gotcha moments and go "but thats just too far fetched and breaks x y and z"

2018-07-16 23:58:20 UTC  

Abstract is the only real good way to go for some things.

2018-07-16 23:58:32 UTC  

Since the pragmatics can easily break on tribal boundaries.

2018-07-16 23:58:33 UTC  

its just like "ugh... just answer the question, its not supposed to be a gotcha damnit"

2018-07-16 23:58:43 UTC  

lol that feel when ppl are like "OH U JUS MAKIN SHIT UP TO MAKE U SOUND RIGHT" LIKE NO JUST PROPERLY ARTICULATE YOUR POSITIONS AND WE WOULDNT BE IN THIS MESS JANNET

2018-07-16 23:58:51 UTC  

I think examination of the situation is valid though

2018-07-16 23:59:06 UTC  

Sometimes the parameters of a question make assumptions they shouldnt

2018-07-16 23:59:08 UTC  

poor Janet, always causing problems

2018-07-16 23:59:09 UTC  

Am i the only one that thinks McCain is senile?

2018-07-16 23:59:11 UTC  

But that's the reality of most debate in this world. No one's actually looking to discuss. They're looking to win.

2018-07-16 23:59:18 UTC  

McCain is an old man

2018-07-16 23:59:23 UTC  

and has old man problems

2018-07-16 23:59:49 UTC  

lol i mean he had a brain tumor not long ago lol not to mention haveing been a POW

2018-07-16 23:59:50 UTC  

i blame ugandan knuckles

2018-07-16 23:59:53 UTC  

Who cares, he's almost certainly going to retire soon and isn't that much of a factor in anything anymore.

2018-07-16 23:59:59 UTC  

Because people act like McCain is a true hero

2018-07-17 00:00:06 UTC  

I mean, in some ways he is.

2018-07-17 00:00:11 UTC  

But he went senile since the 2012 election

2018-07-17 00:00:16 UTC  

i love McCain cakes XD

2018-07-17 00:00:37 UTC  

@pratel i mean they are saying how he is a hero now since he is standing against trump

2018-07-17 00:00:45 UTC  

Lol. You can avoid the tax with a VPN

2018-07-17 00:00:51 UTC  

Which i feel like is a cough out

2018-07-17 00:01:10 UTC  

Not a very effective tax by the sound of it.

2018-07-17 00:01:23 UTC  

Let's just hope that they don't give other governments any ideas.