Message from @pratel

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2018-07-17 01:50:59 UTC  

Think about how many dead people will be voting

2018-07-17 01:51:03 UTC  

SSN would be very easy to compromise, IMO. In the US we don't have government IDs beyond that either.

I've seen government security. I wouldn't trust it to get a ballot to everyone who needs it and still be robust enough to not be compromised by some intelligence service somewhere.

2018-07-17 01:51:07 UTC  

If voting was done online

2018-07-17 01:51:10 UTC  

Offense > defense.

2018-07-17 01:51:28 UTC  

"Oh no the dead people"
Sure it might happen more, but its quite rare as is.

2018-07-17 01:51:34 UTC  

Also

2018-07-17 01:51:43 UTC  

It's rare because we don't vote online ya fag

2018-07-17 01:51:48 UTC  

The most secure way i can think of, having novice knowledge of these sorts of things

2018-07-17 01:51:58 UTC  

Is to hand out physical items (Some kind of card) every year

2018-07-17 01:52:03 UTC  

To every citizen

2018-07-17 01:52:21 UTC  

With a very long string of numbers on it or something

2018-07-17 01:52:21 UTC  

It's not as rare as you think.

2018-07-17 01:52:27 UTC  

That they have to input when voting

2018-07-17 01:52:39 UTC  

Not gonna work

2018-07-17 01:52:42 UTC  

Why not?

2018-07-17 01:52:48 UTC  

It's cards

2018-07-17 01:52:51 UTC  

So?

2018-07-17 01:52:57 UTC  

You'd have to do something better.

2018-07-17 01:52:59 UTC  

Common sense

2018-07-17 01:53:06 UTC  

No one would actually care

2018-07-17 01:53:10 UTC  

If it's cards you could easily start by intercepting the cards or reverse engineering the numbers.

2018-07-17 01:53:22 UTC  

And you can fuck with the numbers

2018-07-17 01:53:29 UTC  

No, you cannot.

2018-07-17 01:53:37 UTC  

You might make an argument if you had RSA tokens or something.

2018-07-17 01:53:38 UTC  

I dont think you understand this method

2018-07-17 01:53:43 UTC  

Say you have 300k citizens

2018-07-17 01:54:08 UTC  

But I've seen enough stuff get compromised I wouldn't trust 300 mil RSA tokens to be a workable defense against a determined opponent.

2018-07-17 01:54:09 UTC  

But you set out a number with however many digits, that results in 10 trillion possibile combinations

2018-07-17 01:54:25 UTC  

You have the 'real' answers recorded on whatever is tracking the vote.

2018-07-17 01:54:36 UTC  

And the cards sent out

2018-07-17 01:54:44 UTC  

And you match the numbers to the records. Yeah, but how are you making the numbers.

2018-07-17 01:55:00 UTC  

There's going to inevitably be a pattern (the people who run these things tend to be lazy)

2018-07-17 01:55:07 UTC  

And you just have to figure it out.

2018-07-17 01:55:10 UTC  

mayeb a blockchain generation algorhythm would work

2018-07-17 01:55:28 UTC  

It doesn't even have to be 100% decoded, just enough to flip a couple strategic locations.

2018-07-17 01:55:29 UTC  

i mean has bitcoin been hacked ???

2018-07-17 01:55:29 UTC  

You obviously couldnt be lazy. But if you had this setup by people who are familiar with digital security, i doubt that'd end up being the issue.

2018-07-17 01:55:40 UTC  

"if it's easy to figure out people will just figure it out" - that's not a very compelling argument

2018-07-17 01:55:44 UTC  

^

2018-07-17 01:55:59 UTC  

If you talk with people in digital security they'll tell you to assume you've been compromised from the start.

2018-07-17 01:56:04 UTC  

There was one where double spending was found out.