@Zuihou The Democratic socialists were never going to accept anything less than total capitulation as an acceptable option.

If they had gone even slightly in favor of the Proud Boys there's not much they could have done.

and kids do not really care about "optics" if they think something is stupid, they say it's stupid

But then the kids tend to turn into their parents at a late age.

yeah good thing these arent the kind of people to beat their kids

till they capitulate

It was interesting to see one of my profs lose his cool and rant about gun control, and most of my class not exactly agreeing with him though not necessarily speak up against him

kids turn into their parents when they turn out to be wrong

@Zuihou had they instead capitulated immediately, the right would have hated them anyways.

In a School of public affairs and environment class

Yeah, because everyone's afraid of going against the Professor.

It's kinda like very few people actually stand up to the social justice mob.

LOOOL wow hahahaha yeah when ur a class full of people with acess to facts, one person with acess to facts (even if ignorant) doesnt really stand on much

Alot of it, frankly is organization.

I am optimistic' about this new generation

I'm pessimistic about everything.

I will hope you're right.

lol i mean the youngins i know are pretty woke to those shenanigans but then again theyre christans

fairly fundamentalist

But I think more needs to be done and that we risk being locked in our own bubble too easily and think things will necessarily improve on their own.

only reason i've ever seen why student don't stand up to their teacher is to not get into trouble / fail the course

i dont go out and activley look for kids to talk to so other than family of friends i dont know shit about what they feel

Absolutely not on their own

You might think that. But why do the social justice mobs go after administrators and faculty who cross them?

They're not afraid. They're empowered.

But I think gen Z is pretty aware of the manipulative media

Often by faculty in other departments.

because they know they can get away with it

yeah they obviousley know the power the face value of their message has

yeah... thats attacking the teacher though, not standing up to the teacher 😉

i mean if youre a teacher seen as standing against divercity......... yeah

classic politics hahah

Which is why I think somehow organization is essential. It's not enough to simply be in a majority. You have to be in a conscious majority that can push back.

Minorities dictating the preferences of majorities is the history of humanity.

@pratel from what i saw, the proud boys were forced to leave by the police, then the left organized a protest online against the bar, then the bar caved and banned the proud boys from now on, then the backlash fro mthe right joined in after

Many students are pretty woke, you just have to put on a defensive mask when you are at uni

ends up as an evolved form of highschool drama bullshit

that we all thought would be left in highschool.... then that moment u realise that shit happens everywhere

@Zuihou I could see that. I haven't looked into the case too much myself.

I'm just trying to say that once the Democratic socialists set their eyes on you, you lose. That's actually the endgame. If they terrorize enough business they can enforce their desires on everyone *without having to harass them*.

Defang the Proud Boys and let Antif run wild. It's "diversity of tactics" so to speak.

Would be good if alternative media made it a focus to track that shit

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Yeah, but what happens if you never leave high school. That the silence extends your entire adult life?

Victory for the mob, so to speak.

yeah such a shame