The Sargon faction of liberalism

See, that's how I think it makes sense to do labels. If you're, say 70+% agreement with that one person say that person and any exceptions.

None of this bouncing around trying to nail the perfect split of labels.

Ive been labeled 'left libertarian' before

Im comfortable with that label.

Very few can agree with literally 100 percent of a label

30% can be a lot of things to disagree with though

I pick what describes me the most

I call myself liberalist and not social liberal or classical liberal for that reason

And another problem with labels is that you can find yourself subconsciously thinking what would my label do

ok, 30% whatever precent you find appropriate. You shouldn't ever agree 100% with someone.

But a public figure is always a pretty clear goalpost.

And I think it's implicitly where people put themselves when playing hte label game.

I'd say I agree about 88% on political issues with sargon

Substituting labels with names.

Sargon is quite eloquent

sargon is quite whiny too

The problem for me i guess specifically is that I don't totally line up all that well

I have the same issue.

If I play the "I think like game" the list is probably 15 people long. And it changes which 15 people that is.

If I have to say that I support someone it is better that i mention multiple people to show that I am somewhere in between these people

But would you have a well defined label?

I wouldn't say well defined

I'm guessing that if you don't have a clean couple people you likely don't have a clean label either.

other than centrist maybe

I don't.

or independent

Personally, I can't even claim "centrist" on some things. Not only do I not know where the center is, but I can be very extreme.

Like Free Speech.

https://8values.github.io/results.html?e=51.2&d=41.0&g=43.8&s=54.2

free speech isn't a left/right issue

That's pretty close to what I have.

the far left and far right both oppose free speech, so free speech extremism is a pretty centrist position

It's been a long time since i did 8 values

Actually, now I think about it, probably not. I haven't taken 8 values in a while.

i did it like last week

But i think being very staunchly pro-free speech will be something that most of the people here agree on.

My saying is that it's not a line, it's not a plane and it's not a cube.

It's so high-dimensional you're better off not trying to visualize it at all. And distance and space is really weird in such high dimension too.

Yeah, that's probably the key binding value in this community and the couple other communities I think relate.

Well technically I guess the way this might work is that you look at many different values like in 8 values

And the values you feel more strongly for you might not need a label but if you lean that way greatly it surely kind of shows what you hold in high regard

That would make sense.