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2018-07-21 00:44:55 UTC  

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2018-07-21 00:45:44 UTC  

It's why I said if you want to make sure the women are choosing to wear them, you need to bam muslims

2018-07-21 00:46:03 UTC  

Banning the hijab makes more sense

2018-07-21 00:47:26 UTC  

It's also oppressive to those who are actually making the choice entirely on their own.

2018-07-21 00:47:34 UTC  

How do you know.

2018-07-21 00:48:16 UTC  

What do you even mean how do I know? I know because you're telling someone they're not allowed to make their own choices.

2018-07-21 00:48:21 UTC  

I challenge you, go into a muslim community, find me one person who says she's being pressured into it.

2018-07-21 00:48:46 UTC  

That has nothing to do with the simple fact that you're trying to control people.

2018-07-21 00:49:02 UTC  

I don't care if it's being oppressive to a negligible minority. It's being used for far worse purposes

2018-07-21 00:49:34 UTC  

And, you can wear a chador

2018-07-21 00:49:50 UTC  

I don't like that aspect of the culture any more than you do, but I'm not willing to give up my own, and everyone else's freedom for promises that people will be treated nicer.

2018-07-21 00:50:15 UTC  

You were saying hijab.

2018-07-21 00:50:21 UTC  

Chador is hijab.

2018-07-21 01:22:25 UTC  

In Germany a ban on masks also applies to facial curtains

2018-07-21 01:22:45 UTC  

You have to have an ID-able face in public

2018-07-21 01:30:31 UTC  

@Deleted User but but wearing a hijab is a choice REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

2018-07-21 01:33:59 UTC  

Wear it at home

2018-07-21 01:34:23 UTC  

Covering hair in public is fine though

2018-07-21 01:40:03 UTC  

@Schedrevka Chador isn't hijab you cuck

2018-07-21 01:40:17 UTC  

It covers your head, leaves your face

2018-07-21 01:41:32 UTC  

Hijab is a wide category. It doesn't only refer to veils that cover the face. At least not in the western world.

2018-07-21 01:41:37 UTC  

I think this is a classic Europe versus US thing.

Europeans won't admit it, but they are much more protective of their culture(s) and can be kinda xenophobic at times (look at France and their insistence and protectiveness of their language)

Americans (almost uniformly as I can tell) will typically view banning hijabs as an affront to freedom of religion. And you're going to find even less support of bans in libertarian-ish communities.

2018-07-21 01:41:44 UTC  

No it fucking doesn't

2018-07-21 01:41:52 UTC  

So France and Germany might ban the hijab but it won't really fly in the US.

2018-07-21 01:42:03 UTC  

*Denmark, not Germany

2018-07-21 01:42:16 UTC  

I don't really know what to say, because you're just wrong.

2018-07-21 01:42:22 UTC  

Do an image search for the word.

2018-07-21 01:42:32 UTC  

There's hijab, niquab, and chador

2018-07-21 01:42:45 UTC  

There's no "Wide category"

2018-07-21 01:43:00 UTC  

Here's a diagram, since words are clearly too hard for you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/470042984654569472/images_9.jpeg

2018-07-21 01:43:14 UTC  

Fucking "Wide categories"

2018-07-21 01:43:20 UTC  

Jesus

2018-07-21 01:43:30 UTC  

Hijab both refers to any sort of muslim veil, although the head scarf is most common.

2018-07-21 01:43:45 UTC  

I think you're both right here.

2018-07-21 01:43:52 UTC  

Shivangi is using the proper definition

2018-07-21 01:44:05 UTC  

Hijab as the word means veil sure

2018-07-21 01:44:12 UTC  

Schedrevka is using a colloquial definition common in parts of the western world.

2018-07-21 01:44:50 UTC  

Given the choice, Shivangi's definition is probably preferable.

2018-07-21 01:44:52 UTC  

So you guys call any muslim veil "hijab"

2018-07-21 01:44:57 UTC  

My god