Message from @zutt
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And making it fail
So, use capitalism to fund socialist endeavors, but only so much as you can afford?
Socialism would work great in society of robots
we are the borg.
the problem is that we live in a society
Well you can notice they do behave similar lol
Many forms of government would work great with robots
Almost like a program constructed properly.
It's all paradise until you introduce the human factor
or we just stick with capitalism and if you dont want to work to make a living you end up homeless and starve cuz of your laziness
Btw human factor is also what is fucking the Brexit
There are many people who work for themselves
if a man will not work, he shall not eat.'
or have support mechanisms that are ...voluntary...for those people that can't work to make a living.
Its fascinating to watch
well theres a huge difference between refuse to work and cant physically work
That is why I guess most governments have programs for those
"if a man will not work, he shall not eat" dude !!! That used to be comunist party slogan in my country
yes but those programs are abused by those who refuse to work
So the problem is the people abusing
is it, or is the problem that we don't have clear enough methods of making distinctions between those abusing and those with actual limitations?
Would be both in that case no?
one is a problem the other is a symptom
Or rather when I say the problem is the people abusing is that the problem is about the people abusing
a problem is something that can be solved
hard to catch people that are abusing it without having surveillance on them 24/7
is it though?
yeah cuz without having them watched how do you know they arent acting/lying
The commies used to make ppl surveil each other
Their favorite trick was to coerce school children to grass their own family
grass?
i would argue that that is again a problem with our methods, or ways of measuring, our ability to gain knowledge.
"Tell on"
Well are you giving disability purely based on trust?
if they can act or lie their way into a disability.
its just hard to tell what is wrong with someones body with our technology. some problems you cant see even with MRI's and Xrays
or even CAT scans
i agree, was my point.
Reminds me, a guy I used to know was pulled out of school at age 14 and was never home schooled by his parents so his parents could collect welfare later on.
we would need some form of technology that could tell when something actually caused someone pain like in their joints or whatever else their complaint is that is keeping them from working